Zeus Feed Rollers

[blackcat4866]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

The neoprene Konica Minolta rollers do not have a grain to the tire material, so it doesn't matter. The Kyocera rollers have a grain to the rubber. Let's see if I can find an illustration:

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[subaro]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

So here is my question. when you remove the roller from the drum or whatever the proper name. Is there any orientation you slide the replacement roller into that drum or it does not matter ?.

[NeoMatrix]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

I took the liberty to photo-edit in your suggestion. I see a small mechanical issue. To illustrate the point I drew in the rollers as cutaways. Do you think that you can push the 14mm end of the hub through a 10mm oriface?

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Try this idea. I have two possibly three other design ideas......
Apology for the resolution of the images. They are suppose to be 1280 x 1024 in size.
The images are automatically reduced down in size when uploading to CTN.

Use these images as you wish.

The design is suppose to be used in the vertical upright position against a table surface or floor.
Leave the plunger on the table sitting on it's base and hold the entire main cylinder and roller and then push downward
to the table over the top of the plunger.
The press should first push the hard plastic hub out away from the rubber roller.
The hole either end of the main cylinder is big enough to allow the plastic hub to be pushed back into
the new rubber roller sleeve.


RollerPress1_1.jpgRollerPress1_2.jpg

[blackcat4866]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

With a bit of cheeky modification to the design it might be possible to do it in one operation....
See attached image.
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I just had a light bulb moment. The roller press can be done even simpler and smaller to fit in a work bag. I'll leave it for the time being. It would be interesting to see how many others pick up on the general idea.

I took the liberty to photo-edit in your suggestion. I see a small mechanical issue. To illustrate the point I drew in the rollers as cutaways. Do you think that you can push the 14mm end of the hub through a 10mm oriface?

Roller Press Revision.JPG

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[Schluken]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

We have been using the solid gray rollers from the 4035\5035 and km-4050\5050 models and they have been running longer at less then the cost of the originals in the machine. The part number is 2AR07230. They seem to be the ticket for us.

[bigwul]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

For as long as I can remember (OK, quite a bit longer than that) I have always built things to withstand the stresses provided by 10 dancing elephants. I do not recall exactly who defined that particular standard, but everyone I know seems to understand it. As a result, many of the things I build are considerably heavier than need be, but rarely break.

Real dancing elephants are quite rare, so I don't usually get to truly field test my constructions. It's so difficult to assemble 10 of them in one place. =^..^=

As long as you don't want them to jump - that might be a tad trickier.....

[kjg]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Novel idea on the roller press.
I just might have to try it out.

I have been using Ricoh rollers for color machines in some of my Kyoceras. Very similar roller from what I see in the picture.

The press deserves several likes.

Thanks!!!

[blackcat4866]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

I like the above rubber roller press idea. I might have to put one of these together.

It should also work in reverse and remove the old rubber roller as well.
Put a metal cylinder inside the main tube with an inner diameter just big enough for the plastic housing, and the push the old rubber roller off the plastic housing. Viola!!!.
The inner cylinder need not be full length of the main outer tubing, it just needs be a simple thin ring shape of metal soldered into place inside the main tube. Put a blanking plate/metal washer over the top of inner removal cylinder and press the new rubber roller onto the old housing, as per normal.

With a bit of cheeky modification to the design it might be possible to do it in one operation....
See attached image.
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I just had a light bulb moment. The roller press can be done even simpler and smaller to fit in a work bag. I'll leave it for the time being. It would be interesting to see how many others pick up on the general idea.

Good idea. I'll give it some thought. =^..^=

[Hansoon]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Pure bare ingenuity here guys

Cool ideas!

Hans

[blackcat4866]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Not only can you remove rubber from both the old and new rollers for swapping hubs, but if you start the rubber and turn it around in the press, it will install the rubber onto the hub too. Pictures please. =^..^=

[NeoMatrix]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Or use your roller press (yesterday's project):

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3 1/2" of 1" copper.
Left cap drilled with 8mm hole.
Right cap drilled with 14mm hole, to accommodate the roller hub.
Temporarily assemble bronze bushing to left cap with 8mm x 24mm bolt and nut.
Assemble left cap, copper tube, right cap, then solder 3 joints. Let cool.
Cut away center part of the tube with Dremel cutter wheel, 45mm long by 1/2 the circumference
Remove the bolt, wash away any remaining rosin and clean up rough edges.

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I like the above rubber roller press idea. I might have to put one of these together.

It should also work in reverse and remove the old rubber roller as well.
Put a metal cylinder inside the main tube with an inner diameter just big enough for the plastic housing, and the push the old rubber roller off the plastic housing. Viola!!!.
The inner cylinder need not be full length of the main outer tubing, it just needs be a simple thin ring shape of metal soldered into place inside the main tube. Put a blanking plate/metal washer over the top of inner removal cylinder and press the new rubber roller onto the old housing, as per normal.

With a bit of cheeky modification to the design it might be possible to do it in one operation....
See attached image.
RollerPress.jpg

I just had a light bulb moment. The roller press can be done even simpler and smaller to fit in a work bag. I'll leave it for the time being. It would be interesting to see how many others pick up on the general idea.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Okay I'll bite.
I have a feeling I shouldn't ask this.
What is the ten dancing elephants test ?

For as long as I can remember (OK, quite a bit longer than that) I have always built things to withstand the stresses provided by 10 dancing elephants. I do not recall exactly who defined that particular standard, but everyone I know seems to understand it. As a result, many of the things I build are considerably heavier than need be, but rarely break.

Real dancing elephants are quite rare, so I don't usually get to truly field test my constructions. It's so difficult to assemble 10 of them in one place. =^..^=

[NeoMatrix]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Or use your roller press (yesterday's project):


Post your picture, or better yet an improvement. I tend to over-build. You know, the ten dancing elephants test.

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Okay I'll bite.
I have a feeling I shouldn't ask this.
What is the ten dancing elephants test ?

[allan]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

Then the grey ribbed roller will work on the pick-up as well and they are half the price of the orange ones.

[blackcat4866]

Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

... Remove rubber, spray some Windex to the hub and she'll slide right on.

Or use your roller press (yesterday's project):

Roller Press.JPG

3 1/2" of 1" copper.
Left cap drilled with 8mm hole.
Right cap drilled with 14mm hole, to accommodate the roller hub.
Temporarily assemble bronze bushing to left cap with 8mm x 24mm bolt and nut.
Assemble left cap, copper tube, right cap, then solder 3 joints. Let cool.
Cut away center part of the tube with Dremel cutter wheel, 45mm long by 1/2 the circumference
Remove the bolt, wash away any remaining rosin and clean up rough edges.

Roller Press 2.JPG

8mm shaft, 5 5/8" long. The end at the roller milled down to 6mm, 3/32" long.
It's hard to see, but there is a 4mm wide groove lengthwise, 20mm long, 2mm deep; to accommodate the plastic snap on the KM-8001i rollers.
Handle of your choosing, preferably with a smooth palm surface, pinned to the shaft and epoxied.

Post your picture, or better yet an improvement. I tend to over-build. You know, the ten dancing elephants test.

elephant_facing.jpg

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