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  • toddanderson
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    • Dec 2005
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    Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

    Our kyocera salesmen was just in and told us kyocera is relabeling the Ricoh production units
    and will be showing them in April kick off show.

    Has anyone worked with the ricoh boxes ? From the northwest we dont see to many production units sold.

    He said they will also be showing a 100cpm inkjet machine not sure who makes that one
  • craigster
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    Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

    I worked for Ricoh for many Years and now I work for a Kyocera dealer and hope and pray that does NOT happen. Ricoh production is just fast plastic and they suck.. and very time consuming.

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    • Geo
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      #3
      Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

      Originally posted by toddanderson
      Our kyocera salesmen was just in and told us kyocera is relabeling the Ricoh production units
      and will be showing them in April kick off show.

      Has anyone worked with the ricoh boxes ? From the northwest we dont see to many production units sold.

      He said they will also be showing a 100cpm inkjet machine not sure who makes that one
      I do know that Epson makes an inkjet that is north of 100 PPM and uses the same finisher that Kyocera finisher.

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      • toddanderson
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        Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

        Well thats not good news, I have been told that by other tech not liking ricoh,
        but I guess we will find out . Its also two week training i am not looking forward to that.


        Originally posted by craigster
        I worked for Ricoh for many Years and now I work for a Kyocera dealer and hope and pray that does NOT happen. Ricoh production is just fast plastic and they suck.. and very time consuming.

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        • Tonerkiller
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          Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

          Originally posted by Geo
          I do know that Epson makes an inkjet that is north of 100 PPM and uses the same finisher that Kyocera finisher.
          I do not think Kyocera makes the finishers.

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          • Vincent128
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            Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

            Originally posted by Tonerkiller
            I do not think Kyocera makes the finishers.
            In the day, not sure how true this still is but...pretty much all finishers are made by canon. Story goes that is how they got into the copier business in the first place.

            Used to be that you would crack open a minolta or ricoh finisher and the darn things main board even said canon, though the staple heads have always been swingline.

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            • Geo
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              Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

              Originally posted by Tonerkiller
              I do not think Kyocera makes the finishers.
              I don't know who makes the finishers....What I do know is that the Epson with a spacer uses the same finisher.

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              • JR2ALTA
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                Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                Kyocera has held it's own against the big boys so I don't see the logic in this.
                70ppm with staple, punch, saddle is plenty of market share.
                Why risk your brand on someone else's intellectual property

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                • Mr2crazed
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                  • Jun 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                  Originally posted by craigster
                  I worked for Ricoh for many Years and now I work for a Kyocera dealer and hope and pray that does NOT happen. Ricoh production is just fast plastic and they suck.. and very time consuming.
                  I agree with you. We have techs who work on the Ricoh production machines and are very labor intensive. I hope this is "fake news", lol.

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                  • Geo
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                    Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                    Unfortunately many school districts and institutions spec out for MFP north of 95 or so CPM and typically these are hard minimums.

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                    • toddanderson
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                      Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                      Our Kyocera tech rep confirmed it and he is going for two week training at ricoh in a couple weeks.
                      I think he said Atlanta but i dont remember.
                      he also confirmed the high speed inkjet.
                      ricoh and the inkjet will be at the kyocera shown in April I think Florida


                      Originally posted by Mr2crazed
                      I agree with you. We have techs who work on the Ricoh production machines and are very labor intensive. I hope this is "fake news", lol.

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                      • ss12
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                        #12
                        Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                        I've heard the same thing here in the uk.Supposedly using the Ricoh Charis machine.Also heard they are launching a 150 cpm mono inkjet developed themselves

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                        • Craig2309
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                          #13
                          Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                          I work on both the ricoh production ProC7110 and the full line Kyocera's,if the placement is right the Ricoh Pro's do a good job other than the booklet finisher I'm told,The problem is design wise Kyocera and Ricoh are pretty far apart and the Maintenance procedure etc. on the Ricoh is kind of old school Unit rebuild type thinking whereas the Kyocera is Unit replacement centered for the most part.Ricoh allows a "skilled" customer into some of the tech settings area for adjustment by the key op,not good if you ask me,also Ricoh has a TCRU program that allows customers to replace parts themselves,Drums,Drum and Transfer belt cleaning unit,fuser,etc.,also not good if you ask me,but the registration and copy quality on these machines is pretty good,registration is so spot on that Ricoh actually suggests running copies back through to add an extra layer of white or clear toner to make them more solid.The best thing you caqn do is stress the importance to the customer of using the paper library correctly when loading different brands and stocks of paper,if they do paper problems and copy quality problems will be minimal.

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                          • itchyfinger@att.net
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                            Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                            was in Kyocera Chicago class last week. instructor said yes to ink jet high production units. they will be at the show next week and are 2 of them.

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                            • Geo
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                              Re: Kyocera Buying Ricoh production machines

                              Originally posted by itchyfinger@att.net
                              was in Kyocera Chicago class last week. instructor said yes to ink jet high production units. they will be at the show next week and are 2 of them.
                              Any clue...So are they Kyocera from the ground up or modified Epson's?

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