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  • toddanderson
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Dec 2005
    • 221

    Kyocera shakeup

    Last week several vice presidents were fired , The new president is shaking things up after three years in a row of losing sales.
    The new production ink jet will be shown again , at the show in a couple weeks in Vegas. The ink jet nothing but problems
    delay after delay the release of it ,
  • bsm2
    IT Manager

    25,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 27454

    #2
    Re: Kyocera shakeup

    Doesn't surprise me, I worked for largest independent copier dealer and we out sold Kyocera with Canon and Konica 10 to 1
    Warranty for Kyocera is great but unfortunately you have to use it.

    By the way Kyocera has changed the web interface on the new models.

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    • ntbann
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Jan 2012
      • 613

      #3
      Re: Kyocera shakeup

      No web interface is the same.

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      • JR2ALTA
        Service Manager

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • Feb 2010
        • 2017

        #4
        Re: Kyocera shakeup

        Kyocera is awesome company with awesome products. The problem is they never broke through with name recognition. It's hard to pronounce, they don't run commercials or sponsor events in here in America.

        The production machine experiment probably didn't pan out.

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        • copiertec
          Service Manager

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          1,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2016
          • 2172

          #5
          Re: Kyocera shakeup

          Their 3500i-8001i series have been great for us, usually run with not too many issues. We have not sold their color boxes, which needed improvement but seems most techs like the newer 2-3 series color. With that being said, I am comparing the boxes we work on, mostly Sharp but, made the transition into Kyocera due to Sharp's management issues which eventually trickled into their line and for the most part we stay away from Sharp since the 40 series.
          So, I hope that they don't try to cheap out on msata and sd cards like Sharp, hell, look at the drive sections on the 50-70 series.
          I agree, when you mention Kyocera copiers most people think they are some cheap off brand, I get it a lot, until we put them in the office and let them run.
          Very few document feeder issues on the Alfard I & II series,(minus the rash of upgrades on the Alfard series when they came out), they have quick maintenance changes compared to a Sharp and can easily run past 2+ mil with drive clutch swap. I hope the changes will be for the better, such as advertising, instead of making stuff cheaper to cut costs on the product line and have it affect reliability.
          Last edited by copiertec; 04-09-2019, 01:56 AM.

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          • Tonerkiller
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Oct 2012
            • 658

            #6
            Re: Kyocera shakeup

            Originally posted by bsm2
            Doesn't surprise me, I worked for largest independent copier dealer and we out sold Kyocera with Canon and Konica 10 to 1
            Warranty for Kyocera is great but unfortunately you have to use it.

            By the way Kyocera has changed the web interface on the new models.
            I am not sure how the Konica's are now, but when we sold them they were junk. We sold the Konica 7050, 7060. They had clutch problems and the tires only lasted 80K. Now we only sell Kyocera and we love them.

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            • yurisan
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              100+ Posts
              • Dec 2007
              • 102

              #7
              Re: Kyocera shakeup

              Originally posted by copiertec
              Their 3500i-8001i series have been great for us, usually run with not too many issues. We have not sold their color boxes, which needed improvement but seems most techs like the newer 2-3 series color. With that being said, I am comparing the boxes we work on, mostly Sharp but, made the transition into Kyocera due to Sharp's management issues which eventually trickled into their line and for the most part we stay away from Sharp since the 40 series.
              So, I hope that they don't try to cheap out on msata and sd cards like Sharp, hell, look at the drive sections on the 50-70 series.
              Been doing Sharps & Kyoceras for a bunch of years and still give the nod to Sharp - Simple, modular construction and super quick disassembly - one screw, flip a couple levers, & fuser in your hand. PF & ADF rollers - 2 seconds. Transfer belt - turn a couple levers & slide it right out the front of machine. They have figured out color in a big way - now you never change developer (toner has developer in it), Pantone Color Matching is standard, chargers clean themselves, & if you buy direct from China, consumable parts are dirt cheap. I can live with having to swap out a $2 SD card. IT people absolutely love Sharp - simple, effective, bullet-proof, & you can customize & idiot-proof the control panel or just give them the "Easy Mode" for everything. As somebody said, Kyocera has a great warranty, but you're gonna need it, plus the documentation they require is nuts! Sharp - zing, zing, apply online, 2 days part is in your hands (but it is a rare day when you need a Sharp warranty part). We do Kyocera color printers also, and the yields they claim for drums is a joke - you're lucky to get 50% of what they say. Lowest TCO in the Industry - not from what we see.

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              • toddanderson
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                100+ Posts
                • Dec 2005
                • 221

                #8
                Re: Kyocera shakeup

                Are you buying shart OEM parts and consumables direct from china


                Originally posted by yurisan
                Been doing Sharps & Kyoceras for a bunch of years and still give the nod to Sharp - Simple, modular construction and super quick disassembly - one screw, flip a couple levers, & fuser in your hand. PF & ADF rollers - 2 seconds. Transfer belt - turn a couple levers & slide it right out the front of machine. They have figured out color in a big way - now you never change developer (toner has developer in it), Pantone Color Matching is standard, chargers clean themselves, & if you buy direct from China, consumable parts are dirt cheap. I can live with having to swap out a $2 SD card. IT people absolutely love Sharp - simple, effective, bullet-proof, & you can customize & idiot-proof the control panel or just give them the "Easy Mode" for everything. As somebody said, Kyocera has a great warranty, but you're gonna need it, plus the documentation they require is nuts! Sharp - zing, zing, apply online, 2 days part is in your hands (but it is a rare day when you need a Sharp warranty part). We do Kyocera color printers also, and the yields they claim for drums is a joke - you're lucky to get 50% of what they say. Lowest TCO in the Industry - not from what we see.

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                • yurisan
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                  100+ Posts
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 102

                  #9
                  Re: Kyocera shakeup

                  Originally posted by toddanderson
                  Are you buying shart OEM parts and consumables direct from china
                  Yes, you need someone in China (like my nephew) to source the stuff for you (he used to work for Xerox), and it helps if you have a Bitcoin, Litecoin or Neo wallet (they like those cryptos).

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                  • qbert69
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1152

                    #10
                    Re: Kyocera shakeup

                    Originally posted by yurisan
                    Been doing Sharps & Kyoceras for a bunch of years and still give the nod to Sharp - Simple, modular construction and super quick disassembly - one screw, flip a couple levers, & fuser in your hand. PF & ADF rollers - 2 seconds. Transfer belt - turn a couple levers & slide it right out the front of machine. They have figured out color in a big way - now you never change developer (toner has developer in it), Pantone Color Matching is standard, chargers clean themselves, & if you buy direct from China, consumable parts are dirt cheap. I can live with having to swap out a $2 SD card. IT people absolutely love Sharp - simple, effective, bullet-proof, & you can customize & idiot-proof the control panel or just give them the "Easy Mode" for everything. As somebody said, Kyocera has a great warranty, but you're gonna need it, plus the documentation they require is nuts! Sharp - zing, zing, apply online, 2 days part is in your hands (but it is a rare day when you need a Sharp warranty part). We do Kyocera color printers also, and the yields they claim for drums is a joke - you're lucky to get 50% of what they say. Lowest TCO in the Industry - not from what we see.
                    I haven't been that impressed with the durability & lifespan of the pcu charge rollers on the color machines!!! ...they degrade & get pop/arc marks in their rubber surface!!! They need their R&D department to find a material that is more resistant to ozone oxidation degradation!!![emoji15]

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                    • JasonMcDowell
                      Technician
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 23

                      #11
                      Re: Kyocera shakeup

                      Originally posted by yurisan
                      Yes, you need someone in China (like my nephew) to source the stuff for you (he used to work for Xerox), and it helps if you have a Bitcoin, Litecoin or Neo wallet (they like those cryptos).
                      ------------------------------------------------------
                      trading with https://3commas.io/blog/cryptocurrency-taxes-guide
                      Rather interesting recommendation. But if you want to buy anything for crypto, especially BTC, you must earn it. Where can you do so and with what help?

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