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  • n25an
    Service Manager

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    • Jul 2008
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    task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

    task alfa 4551ci

    note
    main board has been replaced
    machine is on wired network
    issue occurs whether wired or on wifi
    machine uses user codes

    keeps locking up intermittently with pdf files when printing no issues scanning...

    the files get stuck in copier print queue
    the files generate a pcl xl error
    the files lock up in the print queue on computer on network or off network... it happens with customers pc or my laptop

    I only got it to print consistently by

    Going into print driver

    Ports take off bidirectional

    Configure ports take of snmp
    Advanced select print directly at printer
    Security -- check all boxes everyone
    Device settings pdl set to kpdl...data pass thru checked


    It will print but it wont staple punch holes or anything...

    for now thats ok...

    I am thinking
    update firmware
    possibly replace dimms on kyocera
    possibly replace hard drive
    the key to doing this would be to check error codes which I have not checked as yet...

    I am checking with you guys to see if I am overthinking this or if anyone has faced this issue before and knows of a simple solution
    Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
    I do this stuff on the weekends too
  • bsm2
    IT Manager

    25,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 27454

    #2
    Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

    Download the KX driver and install using the ipaddress

    once installed set pdl to pcl5
    under ports uncheck snmp


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    • kyotechnz
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Mar 2019
      • 95

      #3
      Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

      There most likely nothing wrong with the copier. The PDF file is most likely the cause of the problem.

      Is it a multi-layered PDF?
      What program are they using to print the PDF?
      There is usually a "Print as Image" option in the Advanced area of the Print section of the program they use to print.
      Selecting this will usually fix this problem. Just be aware on the odd occasion the print may not come out correctly.

      I have used the PDF creation part of the KX driver to create another PDF which can then be printed off.

      Most of these problems I have found are caused when the PDF is created. They may have to go back to the person who supplied the document and get them to recreate it differently.

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      • n25an
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        • Jul 2008
        • 1030

        #4
        Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

        thanks... that makes sense...

        Originally posted by kyotechnz
        There most likely nothing wrong with the copier. The PDF file is most likely the cause of the problem.

        Is it a multi-layered PDF?
        What program are they using to print the PDF?
        There is usually a "Print as Image" option in the Advanced area of the Print section of the program they use to print.
        Selecting this will usually fix this problem. Just be aware on the odd occasion the print may not come out correctly.

        I have used the PDF creation part of the KX driver to create another PDF which can then be printed off.

        Most of these problems I have found are caused when the PDF is created. They may have to go back to the person who supplied the document and get them to recreate it differently.
        Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
        I do this stuff on the weekends too

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        • n25an
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          • Jul 2008
          • 1030

          #5
          Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

          ok I will try that

          Originally posted by bsm2
          Download the KX driver and install using the ipaddress

          once installed set pdl to pcl5
          under ports uncheck snmp


          Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
          I do this stuff on the weekends too

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          • n25an
            Service Manager

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            • Jul 2008
            • 1030

            #6
            Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

            didnt drop by site had another tech check issue...

            neither option worked...
            discovered its not just pdf... its all files that print give this issue...
            scanning and copying works ok...
            at this point its time to check c codes...

            will update you guys on progress...
            Sad To Say I Don't Have a Life
            I do this stuff on the weekends too

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            • bsm2
              IT Manager

              25,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2008
              • 27454

              #7
              Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

              Originally posted by n25an
              didnt drop by site had another tech check issue...

              neither option worked...
              discovered its not just pdf... its all files that print give this issue...
              scanning and copying works ok...
              at this point its time to check c codes...

              will update you guys on progress...
              Yes check everything
              Would suggest you change ipaddress on copier just incase someone is printing with wrong driver.
              Make sure you have the correct print driver installed and configured.

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              • Santander
                Senior Tech

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                • May 2009
                • 768

                #8
                Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

                Originally posted by n25an
                didnt drop by site had another tech check issue...

                neither option worked...
                discovered its not just pdf... its all files that print give this issue...
                scanning and copying works ok...
                at this point its time to check c codes...

                will update you guys on progress...
                Have you printed out the event page to see if there are any F codes being generated? Had a customer a few months ago who used a third party program that was web based and suddenly started creating print errors. Come to find out the vendor had made changes to the web pages that created malformed pages to print causing numerous F codes. What it turned out to be was the web based program was pulling data from a different server that the customers users did not have privileges on causing the print jobs to crash. When the customers internal IT and the vendor got the permissions corrected the problem disappeared. When the users trying to print have a problem is there a common program that is causing the issue?

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                • mincopier
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 290

                  #9
                  Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

                  Disconnect the copier from the network and try printing from a known working laptop. If it works fine then the customer is a problem at their end. We do this first for all print issues. Take the customers hardware out of the equation.

                  Chances are it will work fine.

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                  • autopilot
                    Technician

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                    • May 2011
                    • 68

                    #10
                    Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

                    Agreement with most of the suggestions above:

                    Upgrade FW
                    Use most up to date version of KX
                    Switch KX to PCL5 (haven't actually needed to do this much on newer versions of the driver)

                    If this didn't resolve the issue I would normally think it was an issue with PDF file or the reader they are using but if it's happening with al sorts of docs from multplue PC I think you are looking at either network issue or board

                    As some have said I would run a direct connection from your laptop to the copier and test the same documents. I actually had this very recently where user was getting this error very regularly and it was caused by an IP conflict - some of the data was being lost along the way and PCL XL would print out - would assume then that a suspect network port or cable could cause a similar issue.

                    Also - just wondering you had said that this machine had a main board fitted - was this to try and correct this error or an unrelated issue - was the board fitted new?

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                    • copiertec
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                      • Jan 2016
                      • 2172

                      #11
                      Re: task alfa 4551ci pcl xl errors

                      Originally posted by n25an
                      didnt drop by site had another tech check issue...

                      neither option worked...
                      discovered its not just pdf... its all files that print give this issue...
                      scanning and copying works ok...
                      at this point its time to check c codes...

                      will update you guys on progress...
                      If you check for error codes and see a lot of Cf26f errors, check for a bad network cable and replace with a new one.

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