Kyocera KM-3035 CREASING 11x17

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  • kyoceradude
    The Great Gazoo

    250+ Posts
    • Aug 2006
    • 442

    Kyocera KM-3035 CREASING 11x17

    I've been dealing with a 3035 that creases the paper, trail edge 11 x 17 only. I have already replaced the Set Conveying Unit (new style) and new transfer roller. Even tried a new exit assy, paper feed units, different cassettes (yes I locked down the side guides). Also installed the fuser upgrade and newer fuser assy (the small bracket mounted to the front frame that raises or lowers the front side of fuser) This actually fixed it the first time. Other things I tried are sim 53 Eject motor speed. I had it working for 6 months before it took a crap again. Any other ideas out there???
    My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!
  • higherlevel
    Technician
    • Aug 2006
    • 30

    #2
    Where is the creasing...on the trailing edge how far ?

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    • kyoceradude
      The Great Gazoo

      250+ Posts
      • Aug 2006
      • 442

      #3
      There's only 230K on the machine. Wrinkling on the trail edge more towards the rear of copier, about the middle of page to the trail edge. Probably get 3-4 wrinkled ones out of 10.. Just put in a new transfer roller (yes, I just put one in about 50k ago) and so far I printed about 200 pages with no problem. Just got a set of new springs for the registration roller. Going to put those in and do more testing on it this morning. I'll let you know.....
      My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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      • higherlevel
        Technician
        • Aug 2006
        • 30

        #4
        Did you do a firmware upgrade with the new Fuser and reset a new Sim setting for the new fuser...

        Can't remember the Sim # as I am not near a manual or machine at the moment...
        Last edited by higherlevel; 01-13-2007, 11:37 PM. Reason: update

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        • kyoceradude
          The Great Gazoo

          250+ Posts
          • Aug 2006
          • 442

          #5
          Originally posted by higherlevel
          Did you do a firmware upgrade with the new Fuser and reset a new Sim setting for the new fuser..
          Did that 6 months ago with the new fuser, sim also changed. We had a tech pull out the feed transfer unit and grind off the screws on the front side. This helped out, but we're not taking a chance and just swapping the machine. Thanks for help and suggestions. I'll post any new news.
          My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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          • e99donald

            #6
            Check all cooling fans are coming ON & that they are not all blocked up with "dust bunnies". I know this may sound hocky, but check it out.
            Good luck
            Eric

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            • Warnock
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Dec 2006
              • 50

              #7
              The machine sounds like one I encountered. The floor was concrete warped like a bubble. It caused the machine to conform to the floor. It took about a couple of weeks to show up. The crease was showing on 11x17 only. I had them cut a piece of plywood to flaten out the footprint. I replaced the fuser unit, but it eventually came back. The Copier frame retains the memory of the warp. It took a month on a flat surface before the frame un-tweaked itself and the new fuser corrected itself with the frame.
              Programmers don't die, they gosub without return...

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              • 10871087
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2005
                • 1144

                #8
                Originally posted by e99donald
                Check all cooling fans are coming ON & that they are not all blocked up with "dust bunnies". I know this may sound hocky, but check it out.
                Good luck
                Eric
                I have also seen these fans cause problems, definitely worth a look.

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                • Mark B
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 153

                  #9
                  Check the mylars by the syn roller. I had one with a nick that was causing creases.

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                  • texchar555
                    Senior Production Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 142

                    #10
                    creasing

                    Originally posted by kyoceradude
                    I've been dealing with a 3035 that creases the paper, trail edge 11 x 17 only. I have already replaced the Set Conveying Unit (new style) and new transfer roller. Even tried a new exit assy, paper feed units, different cassettes (yes I locked down the side guides). Also installed the fuser upgrade and newer fuser assy (the small bracket mounted to the front frame that raises or lowers the front side of fuser) This actually fixed it the first time. Other things I tried are sim 53 Eject motor speed. I had it working for 6 months before it took a crap again. Any other ideas out there???
                    have you tried looking at the verical rollers ? sometimes the eclip falls off the shaft and the whole shaft is loose. This will also cause creases.

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                    • texchar555
                      Senior Production Tech

                      100+ Posts
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 142

                      #11
                      have you tried looking at the verical rollers ? sometimes the eclip falls off the shaft and the whole shaft is loose. This will also cause creases.

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                      • kyoceradude
                        The Great Gazoo

                        250+ Posts
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 442

                        #12
                        Originally posted by texchar555
                        have you tried looking at the verical rollers ? sometimes the eclip falls off the shaft and the whole shaft is loose. This will also cause creases.
                        Did all that... We swapped the machine. The problem machine is now in an environment that does not use 11 x 17, and has not had a problem since. Also the customer that had the problem has moved, so the issue with an uneven floor could have been the root cause all along. Thanks for all help and suggestions...
                        My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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                        • IKy
                          Technician
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 19

                          #13
                          I've been having the same problems with 2 5035. problems have appeared in the same time in two different places. both copiers approximately 1300k. I have changed all the unites(even registration and exit ) it did not work. I am going to check fans but have hesitation about this.

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                          • Warnock
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 50

                            #14
                            Creasing

                            Move the machines around to different locations, you may find that they work in certain areas better than others. The metal that is used in copiers today is an alloy that we call "tin", because it is so flimsy and forms to the environment that it is in.
                            Programmers don't die, they gosub without return...

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                            • ronrejjr2000

                              #15
                              Kyocera KM-3035 CREASING 11x17

                              hey guys ) your problem with the creasing is not with the equipment!!!!! you have over trouble shot the problem... it is simply a media problem!! change the supply ..
                              Ron

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