Kyocera Mita KM4035

[tcypy1961]

Is the toner powder in the toner cartridge the same as what is in the developing unit? Thanks to any help given.

[LNorris]

yes, the toner and developer are mixed the in the toner box

[tcypy1961]

So theoretically I could throw out all the powder in the developing unit and replace it with the powder in the toner cartridge??? Because it is Mono-component.
Thanks!!!

[LNorris]

i would empty out as much as i could, put it in machine and run 130 sim to set the toner back into the developer

[tcypy1961]

Is that because it would be a cleaner way to do it??? The toner is mono-component correct??? So there is really no developer unlike the KM 2030 that uses a toner and carrier(developer).
Thanks!!!

[kyoceradude]

Silly question, but is there an issue leading you to want to do this, like a copy quality issue? Background?

[tcypy1961]

I have a machine that the copies were not as good as I feel they could be. I tried a new developing unit first and the copies came out better. I then replaced the drum unit as well. However I did open up the developing unit and removed the powder;(not sure as to call it toner or developer) it looked all clumpy; and sifted it air cleaned the unit and reinstalled the powder. Did not help improve the copies. So I'm thinking if the powder in the refill cartridge is the same as the powder in the developing unit I could just empty the old clumpy powder and add new powder from a refill cartridge and get the same results and should be cheaper???
Thanks!!!

[kyoceradude]

I would also suggest checking/cleaning the transfer roller and updating the firmware for CQ.

[masterchill]

Make sure its oem toner because aftermarket toner will give you poor fill.

[DUKEY]

i would try cleaning the optics my friend!!! TONER dosen't get light on these machines. it is what it is, also if you put a new drum in make sure to clean the slit glass as well

[Tebow83]

yeah this is a common problem when using spurious or refilled toner. If you use the genuine kyocera toner it does not happen.

[Guest]

yeah this is a common problem when using spurious or refilled toner. If you use the genuine kyocera toner it does not happen.

If you are not given a choice on the after market toner, you'll have to empty out the developing unit every so often and scrape off the toner build up on the doctor blade. Once you do that, you will see a significant improvement in print density and overall quality.

[Tebow83]

If you are not given a choice on the after market toner, you'll have to empty out the developing unit every so often and scrape off the toner build up on the doctor blade. Once you do that, you will see a significant improvement in print density and overall quality.

Slightly off topic but does using after market toner cause many problems?? Does drum and dev unit reach life etc??

[Guest]

Absolutely. Some models fare better than others with after market toner, but I have seen first hand evidence of the effects non-OEM toner has on some models. For example, there is apparently a higher content of wax in after market toner that causes a build up of white marks on the drum and a build up of toner on the developing unit doctor blade. Both scenarios will cause washed out prints and can cause premature failure of the unit. There is less evidence of fuser unit issues, but I still think after market toner can negatively effect fuser yields as well. I always encourage the use of OEM toner whenever possible.

[tcypy1961]

When I first started in the business in 1984 I was a strong advocate for using OEM supplies or at least if using generic using the same generic developer and toner. Since then I'm still the same I use alot of generic supplies yet try to make sure wherever I get the toner I get the developer from the same place. However this is my first use of mono-component toner since the old Mita 800D and 900D and 3MVQCIII copiers. I'm guessing the supplies have changed over the years, yet I still can't help but to believe that the generic can be used. That's why I'm wondering why the developing unit could not be emptied and refilled with the toner from a new cartridge. When I did remove the toner from the developing unit it was very clumpy and it was OEM toner.
Thanks!!!