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  • copymaster2000
    Technician
    • Dec 2007
    • 28

    #1

    Km 3050 Copy Quality

    Dear all,

    I m Facing Copy Quality Issue in 3050 using Market Toner.The Copy shows light background & does not have that sharpness.Can u help me out?

    Are there some settings that should be tried or I hv to use some specific toner?

    Pls help me out?

    MACHINE SHOWS INVALID TONER MESSAGE.
  • Eric1968
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2009
    • 2458

    #2
    Use original Kyocera toner!

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    • oxtails
      Technician
      • Jun 2009
      • 14

      #3
      these toners are chipped, only the correct ones will work.

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      • Craigdumass
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Jun 2009
        • 61

        #4
        I fought one of these for a long time and I found out the customer was taking his original Kyocera Toner container and turning it over and filling it up with Cannon toner. I replaced the Developer unit the Drum unit, HVAC, Enging Board and still had the same problem. After all of that work I suspected the toner container and brought a brand new Kyocera DV unit and a Kyocera Toner cartridge and that fixed the problem up after doing all of this I had the customer admit to me what he had been doing.

        I then took his Cannon toner with me and told him if ever ran anything in the machine other than Kyocera OEM toner that I was going to bill him.

        The point is that Kyocera has a patent on the toner, the toner is manufactured with different melting tempurtures, and the particles are at the size and magnetism made specific for that machine.

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        • Jimbo1
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Mar 2008
          • 845

          #5
          We have likewise caught a few refilling the containers.

          Gotta save a buck y'know!

          "Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you."

          Cdr. William Riker

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          • madhavanr
            Technician
            • Mar 2009
            • 15

            #6
            km 3050 toner

            [one of my machine is giving duplicate toner indication , but we never used such a duplicate toner in our machines, but its still showing the same indiacation. is there any problem with the chip reader in the machine????????????

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            • West Texas Flash
              Technician
              • Feb 2008
              • 10

              #7
              I'm forced to run after market toner in these machines so I have a lot of experience with copy quality. I have to open the DV unit and vac all toner out, then reinstall the after market stuff and run 130. Another problem on the falcon 3 after market toner is they have a phase 2 toner (they call it) which causes poor and light quality, then there's the phase 3 stuff which quality is good but the machine doesn't detect waste toner being full. This results in broken augers in the DV unit and damaged drums. The company we used only told us they took phase 3 off the market and reverted back to phase 2 after I called them.

              I agree that the easiest solution is to use oem but at less than half the cost for after market you can vac a lot of toner and still make a profit. Oh well, I manage to get the customer back up quickly and it keeps me employeed.

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              • KdvA
                Engineer
                • Aug 2008
                • 10

                #8
                Invalid toner message.

                INVALID TONER MESSAGE.

                Kyocera create separate toner for each continent (RFID).
                This may therefore mean that the toner is original, but only intended for a different continent (US, Europe, ect, ect,...)

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                • vikingmita
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 163

                  #9
                  i seriously can't understand why people use non-original toner. i really can't.

                  pros: a little bit cheaper (20-30%? and hey: their not always full either)
                  cons: crappy quality, risk of damaging dev, drum, fuser and shorten lifespan, no warrenty, toner spillage and build ups diff.places.

                  plain stupid? oh, yeah.

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                  • leroyal
                    Expert on The Obsolete
                    100+ Posts
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 156

                    #10
                    Originally posted by vikingmita
                    i seriously can't understand why people use non-original toner. i really can't.

                    pros: a little bit cheaper (20-30%? and hey: their not always full either)
                    cons: crappy quality, risk of damaging dev, drum, fuser and shorten lifespan, no warrenty, toner spillage and build ups diff.places.

                    plain stupid? oh, yeah.
                    There's a sucker born every minute.
                    I know what I know better than anyone else knows what I know.

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                    • West Texas Flash
                      Technician
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vikingmita
                      i seriously can't understand why people use non-original toner. i really can't.

                      pros: a little bit cheaper (20-30%? and hey: their not always full either)
                      cons: crappy quality, risk of damaging dev, drum, fuser and shorten lifespan, no warrenty, toner spillage and build ups diff.places.

                      plain stupid? oh, yeah.
                      Not wanting to start an argument but lets look at the 20-30% savings over a weeks time. We save right at $40 per toner for a falcon II machine and we move approx 50 each week, and we are a small dealer. 50 x $40 = $2,000.00 . That adds up to $104,000.00 a year savings. Take away an occasional loss due to having to vac it out or replace a drum, or dv unit and you still make a huge profit. I know I make no where near $100k salary so I know the savings alone can pay salaries and still turn a profit. For those that can't understand why we use it, you probably don't understand why you are working for someone instead of them working for you.

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                      • chexin51
                        Technician
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 37

                        #12
                        reap what you sow

                        Some clients don't complain about the paler copies of competative toner but some do. The ones that do, vacumm everything out and they get OEM toner only. The ones that have the occasional problem that causes parts breakage just throw parts at the problem. you can buy a lot of parts and labour for $104,000 a year. Still the copy quality and reliablity of the original toner is unbeatable. Just like cheap paper - you get what you pay for.

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                        • Executechs1315
                          Technician
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11

                          #13
                          cs km 3050 copy quality / bicycle tire on page

                          Did anyone ever see what looks like bicycle tire marks on the copy/print. After cleaning everything it seems ok. Hard to tell where it's coming from. Machine has over 400k but kept machine clean and well maintained. Did start using Katun Toner.
                          Any help would be greatly appreciated

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                          • chexin51
                            Technician
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 37

                            #14
                            tire patterns on copy

                            I suggest you change the main charger assembly for cross hatch marks on copy

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