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  • n25an
    Service Manager

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    • Jul 2008
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    #1

    Bad kyocera hard drive

    Ok I know by trial and error that a bad optional hard drive will not let the copier scan in some cases and boot in others. It may not even let the copier print...

    Ok... I know you can use km viewer and km admin to test an optional hard drive on falcon 1 and 2 copiers. You do this by installing the optional hard drive as an option on the print card and then going into the km program and pulling up the coper properties. From that point on you can format the optional hard drive and if it doesn't format its probably bad...

    Is there any way to take any hard drive out of a kyocera copier? Optional or required and test if they are good or bad... and if possible without formatting it...?

    that invites another question... why would I need to clone a kyocera hard drive... optional or required... ??? curious about this one...
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  • bsm2
    IT Manager

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    • Feb 2008
    • 29373

    #2
    Hard drive

    Main body HHd will code out

    Printer HHd will give many problems
    printer will not come to ready
    no light on hhd
    light on all the time
    pull it out and if print system works its the HHd they fail after 2 years


    put in extra memory trash the HHD

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    • n25an
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      • Jul 2008
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      #3
      this makes sense

      but is there any kind of sofware out there to test a kyocera hard drive since its a generic hard drive to see if its good or bad or good enough to be used somewhere else...
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      I do this stuff on the weekends too

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      • seveneleven
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 4

        #4
        Manufacturer tools

        Put the hdd into a pc or external usb tray and use the manufacturer diagnostic tools... (e.g. Western Digital, IBM/Hitachi, Samsung ect.)

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        • leroyal
          Expert on The Obsolete
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          • Sep 2007
          • 156

          #5
          You can buy a USB to IDE / SATA adapter on eBay and check the HDD out by right clicking on My Computer , Click Manage....., click Disk Management. Right click to Format it.

          This has been an invaluable tool for me.
          I know what I know better than anyone else knows what I know.

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          • n25an
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            • Jul 2008
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            #6
            bad hard drive but good interface board

            on an optional hard drive has anyone ever had a good hard drive and a bad interface board... (the actual board the hard drive comes sitting on)???
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            • PANG
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              • Feb 2009
              • 104

              #7
              Originally posted by leroyal
              You can buy a USB to IDE / SATA adapter on eBay and check the HDD out by right clicking on My Computer , Click Manage....., click Disk Management. Right click to Format it.

              This has been an invaluable tool for me.
              Sorry to ask this question ,can u provide a detailed diagram ? Thanks. i like to learn something .

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              • leroyal
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                • Sep 2007
                • 156

                #8
                USB 2.0 TO SATA IDE Hard Drive Adapter Converter Cable - eBay (item 270324144498 end time Aug-27-09 15:56:08 PDT)

                You will need a Windows based Laptop or Desktop.
                I know what I know better than anyone else knows what I know.

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                • n25an
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #9
                  usb to ide adapter

                  thanks bought that today...
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                  • n25an
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    #10
                    interesting kyocera hard drives are fat formatted

                    Originally posted by n25an
                    thanks bought that today...
                    kyocera hard drives are fat formatted... so if you connect the hard drive up and via ide to usb cables and cann't get in then the hard drive is bad... you can then use diagnostic software to verify the hard drive's integrity... someone might have mentioned this before...
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                    I do this stuff on the weekends too

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                    • aragul
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 128

                      #11
                      The internal hard drive for a 5530 used some special formatting: the first 4 bytes (big-endian) were "Mita". I'm sure the copier hard drive for a falcon 1 or 2 uses the same scheme.

                      I think you're right with the printer hard drives: I believe they're FAT or FAT32. I haven't been around a working one in quite a while to confirm that.

                      Early linux boxes (falcon 3) use ext2 or ext3.

                      Late linux boxes (500ci) use xfs.

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