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  • mrwho
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    #1

    Kyocera Mita 3530 PM questions

    Hello there, guys!

    I serviced today my first Kyocera Mita ever. The thing is in need of PM, but I got some doubts. Although I think I understood what the manual says, it doesn't hurt to get confirmation from those who know the machines better

    - The Drum, fusing and developing units are to be changed at every PM (every 500k copies). Right?

    - The parts manual specifies that the Fusing and Drum unit have spare parts. So in the PM, should I change the entire units or can I disassemble them and rebuild the units with new parts? And is it worth it or recommended?

    - Is there spare developer for the developing unit? If so, what's the part number?

    I think that's all. Thanks in advance!
    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
    Mascan42

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  • 10871087
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    • Jan 2005
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    #2
    There is 1 pm kit with everything you need it (drum unit, developing unit, fuser unit, transfer unit), I don't know the p/n off the top of my head so I will get it for you later on today.

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    • kyoceradude
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      • Aug 2006
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      #3
      MK-705 2BJ82020. No developer. Run Sim 130 to initialize developer. (all it does is fill it up with toner) Make sure machine is turned off and unpluged when doing PM. Also a good idea to update firmware before PM is done.
      My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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      • 10871087
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        • Jan 2005
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        #4
        Originally posted by kyoceradude
        MK-705 2BJ82020. No developer. Run Sim 130 to initialize developer. (all it does is fill it up with toner) Make sure machine is turned off and unpluged when doing PM. Also a good idea to update firmware before PM is done.

        That's what I was going to say.

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        • mrwho
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          #5
          Thank you both for your replies. Already sent the information to my boss!

          Here's some rep to show you my appreciation!

          Cheers!
          ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
          Mascan42

          'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

          Ibid

          I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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          • aabarnes1
            Senior Tech
            • Mar 2009
            • 620

            #6
            A maintenance kit is a pm kit and a pm kit is to rebuild a maintenance kit, ie mk is modular , pm is actual parts,. We find it is sometimes cheaper to replace a faulty part with an MK rather than an actual unit, ie fuser!
            Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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            • Jules Winfield
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              • Jul 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by aabarnes1
              A maintenance kit is a pm kit and a pm kit is to rebuild a maintenance kit, ie mk is modular , pm is actual parts,. We find it is sometimes cheaper to replace a faulty part with an MK rather than an actual unit, ie fuser!
              I would be careful when doing that as the (relatively) new warranty return process requires a lot of good record keeping habits in order to get credit for parts that die prematurely. Also, be aware that parts that are from maintenance kits are accounted for differently than parts ordered by themselves.
              But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard... to be the Shepherd.

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              • aabarnes1
                Senior Tech
                • Mar 2009
                • 620

                #8
                Point taken my freind, I am only speakin from the info given by our utax uk partners. For instance on the utax 1060 1080 there are 2 maintenance kits,MK650a and MK650b and a pm kit, they tell us that we should rebuild the replaced parts in th mk kit with the parts in the pm kit for the next 500k service.
                Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.

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                • kyoceradude
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                  • Aug 2006
                  • 442

                  #9
                  For that particular model you are correct, as the MK parts can be rebuilt using the PM parts up to 8 times. For the equipment we are talking about, Falcon 1,2 & 3, the MK parts are throw-away. It does not pay to rebuild them or reuse them unless you replaced it under warranty prematurely and it has life left in it, or if you never do PM's (dumb if you ask me). Otherwise $300.00 cost for a maintenance kit on the Falcon 1, 2 & 3 is pretty cheap.
                  My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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                  • mrwho
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kyoceradude
                    MK-705 2BJ82020. No developer. Run Sim 130 to initialize developer. (all it does is fill it up with toner)
                    I'm doing the maintenance as I speak and I was baffled - I didn't take this part of your post literally. So I was combing the box contents looking for the developer.

                    So it means I don't need to order any developer separately? It literally fills the developing unit with toner? So it means the toner is dual component?
                    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                    Mascan42

                    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                    Ibid

                    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                    • kyoceradude
                      The Great Gazoo

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                      • Aug 2006
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                      #11
                      Correct! You do not need separate developer. It is considered a mono-component system.
                      My mission here on Earth is to help all you Dum-Dums!

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                      • mrwho
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                        #12
                        Okay, now I feel dumb!

                        Thanks for the insight - one of the most easy to PM machines I've ever handled!
                        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                        Mascan42

                        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                        Ibid

                        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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