Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

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  • habik
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    • 2013

    #16
    Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

    NIC 1.4 is the latest for this system.
    Can you check for me what number you have in Service mode under simulation 265?
    Also 4030 is 40ppm machine and they had different interface board to the best of my knowledge. For start the physical appearance. On the bottom of the main plate when you push the board in the machine there is extra groove next to the screw hole. On 4030's there is a pin. On 2530,3530 there isn't. This way you can't accidentally put 25 ppm print board to 40 ppm machine. Now the tricky bit is that you can put 4030 board in to 2530 machine .
    So in my opinion you effectively downgrading firmware (speed) from 40 page per minute to 25-35. Silly but I think I am not far from truth. When I find time tomorrow back in the office, I'll have a look at two old donkeys we have as a last back-up and try something.


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    • CraiginAK
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      #17
      Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

      I don't remember there being any different print boards between the Falcon 1's. If works in a 40 should work in a 25 as well. Look in product guide for the machines there was only one print system available.

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      • kkendric
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        #18
        Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

        KM/CS-2530, 3530 and 4030 all use print system n

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        • habik
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          #19
          Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

          Hmm I am doing all from top of my head. What about the BAM system and NO BAM zystem?


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          • habik
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            #20
            Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

            I'd like to apologise for misguiding, I had 4030 in my head for 4035, which by our vendor is Utax CD1040 or Olivetti D400, those for sure use Print system U which is different to system N used in 2530-3530-4030.
            Kkendrick and CraiginAK are 100% spot on.
            4030


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            • sethwh
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              #21
              Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

              "Can you check for me what number you have in Service mode under simulation 265?"

              To answer your question Habik:

              Did you mean the 1087 1087 mode?

              If so 265 has a button for No (blue).

              Then values - 2 (white) and 2 (blue)

              Then arrows up and down to move these two values

              So the consensus is that this board regardless of what model it came out of or what firmware is installed should print just fine on the 2530?

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              • habik
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                #22
                Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                Originally posted by sethwh
                "Can you check for me what number you have in Service mode under simulation 265?"

                To answer your question Habik:

                Did you mean the 1087 1087 mode?

                If so 265 has a button for No (blue).

                Then values - 2 (white) and 2 (blue)

                Then arrows up and down to move these two values

                So the consensus is that this board regardless of what model it came out of or what firmware is installed should print just fine on the 2530?
                Ok thanks for clarification, that seems to be OK.
                Any luck with the CF upload?



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                • sethwh
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                  #23
                  Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                  @Habik

                  I've tried twice and I get "System Download Error 42" - Google says incompatible firmware from one source

                  I was able to format the card correctly (It stalls at processing, guess it tries to print after you format?) but the CF card contained the same directory structure as when I formatted the hard drive. I dropped the file on the root directory but I can't get beyond the error during the restore steps.

                  I'm assuming I either do not have a Print System N or I have a faulty board (I remember you said you've had a few). I'm going by the numbers on my board that I typed into a google image search and was able to match other similar Print System N boards but that might not be the best way to determine N, Q, V, etc.

                  I'll have more time to look at it later this week and I might keep an eye out for a cheap N board on ebay... maybe one bundled with a scan card

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                  • habik
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                    #24
                    Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                    Originally posted by sethwh
                    @Habik

                    I've tried twice and I get "System Download Error 42" - Google says incompatible firmware from one source

                    I was able to format the card correctly (It stalls at processing, guess it tries to print after you format?) but the CF card contained the same directory structure as when I formatted the hard drive. I dropped the file on the root directory but I can't get beyond the error during the restore steps.

                    I'm assuming I either do not have a Print System N or I have a faulty board (I remember you said you've had a few). I'm going by the numbers on my board that I typed into a google image search and was able to match other similar Print System N boards but that might not be the best way to determine N, Q, V, etc.

                    I'll have more time to look at it later this week and I might keep an eye out for a cheap N board on ebay... maybe one bundled with a scan card
                    If you get the scan card make sure it comes with the RTC (real time card)!


                    That download is definitely N-system.
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                    • kkendric
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                      #25
                      Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                      KM 2530, 3530 4030 Print System N, Parallel, network and serial. Inside the print system unit near the F-DIMM there will be a barcode with 3CR0101 on it

                      RI 4530, 5530 Print system Q, Parallel, network and serial

                      Km 3035, 4035 5035 Print System U parallel, USB and network

                      KM 6030 8030 Print System V

                      TA 620 820 Print System W

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                      • habik
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                        #26
                        Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                        Originally posted by sethwh
                        @Habik

                        I've tried twice and I get "System Download Error 42" - Google says incompatible firmware from one source

                        I was able to format the card correctly (It stalls at processing, guess it tries to print after you format?) but the CF card contained the same directory structure as when I formatted the hard drive. I dropped the file on the root directory but I can't get beyond the error during the restore steps.

                        I'm assuming I either do not have a Print System N or I have a faulty board (I remember you said you've had a few). I'm going by the numbers on my board that I typed into a google image search and was able to match other similar Print System N boards but that might not be the best way to determine N, Q, V, etc.

                        I'll have more time to look at it later this week and I might keep an eye out for a cheap N board on ebay... maybe one bundled with a scan card
                        Hey Seth,

                        Just tested the Print System N firmware with 256MB card and formatted it in the Print board, then loaded the firmware into the root of the CF card put it back in the Printer board > Switched it OFF then ON ..DIMM started to be erased then started loading the firmware.. when completed it gave check sum and a RESET button(do nothing with RESET) .Powered down machine, removed CF card switched on and all updated fine!
                        d25 Print system N after update.jpgd25 Print system N before update.jpg
                        Old Firmware: 721202
                        Old NIC :1.2

                        New Firmware: 3CR_721203M.bcmp
                        New NIC ver. 1.4.1

                        Vendor Model doesn't make any difference! Kyocera or UTAX or Olivetti..when flashing the Print System N.
                        Last edited by habik; 10-30-2014, 06:55 PM. Reason: adding fw description
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                        • habik
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                          #27
                          Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                          Pics of the card.





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                          • sethwh
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                            • Oct 2014
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                            #28
                            Re: Requesting help with KM-2530 (networkability?)

                            @Habik and kkendric

                            Thanks for info and the close up images. Now I see what the problem is. My print board has all the similar codes and markings *EXCEPT* for the barcode label (Ugh). Yours says 3CR0101 and mine says 3CW0101. Of course these barcodes never got picked up from a google search but only the markings on the board which led me to believe that I had a Print System N. Also, my updated browser couldn't display the IB-21E web access correctly so who knows what model number I thought was displayed (there were a bunch of jumbled numbers).

                            I'm sorry I was unable to properly identify the board guys but I do appreciate all your input...

                            I'm in contact with some dealers to see what parts they have laying around for a possible exchange or freebie

                            If not I'll be checking eBay to see if a deal pops up.

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