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i am looking for service manuel for oce production machines can any one help???
Thank you,
waleed
Wow -3 words in your topic and 2 are spelled wrong, not to mention you posted in the wrong forum to begin with. As the other guy said, Oce manuals are hard to come by, its doubtful you'll get one.
There are no service manuals for Oce production machines. You need a special Notes database licensed by Oce and special sw tools also licensed by Oce. And they wont give them to you unless you are certified. Shit I work for them and they wont give them to me.
Kronical speaks the truth. The production machines have no service mode like we're used to; all simulations, counter changes and input/output tests are done with a laptop networked to machine. You need one license just to download and view the manuals and a separate license to dial into the machine to do the work. There are no PDFs, as the manual is laid out almost like a website - the index links to various other pages that, in turn, link to others, but there's no scrolling through a 2000 page document like with other manuals.
Techs are only given access to machines they're trained on. I could d/l the stuff for the 2090, C900 and 6250 families, but nothing else. If I was delisted from a machine for some odd reason, at my next update or visit to the Oce website to get bulletins, that model would be wiped from my computer.
tl;dr - Oce is Dutch for anal.
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)
Man, I thought Xerox was bad but it seems Oce' takes the cake. It must hurt the resale value of the Oce' line because you can hardly find parts or supplies and apparently only a privy few can access the coveted service tools.
That sucks because as an independent I'd love to sell and service their line.
Do you think the Oce' line breaks down just as much as any other line? I would think no, they seem to be solid tanks...but I don't know.
Originally posted by Hemlock
Kronical speaks the truth. The production machines have no service mode like we're used to; all simulations, counter changes and input/output tests are done with a laptop networked to machine. You need one license just to download and view the manuals and a separate license to dial into the machine to do the work. There are no PDFs, as the manual is laid out almost like a website - the index links to various other pages that, in turn, link to others, but there's no scrolling through a 2000 page document like with other manuals.
Techs are only given access to machines they're trained on. I could d/l the stuff for the 2090, C900 and 6250 families, but nothing else. If I was delisted from a machine for some odd reason, at my next update or visit to the Oce website to get bulletins, that model would be wiped from my computer.
They're solid (other than Venlo cut sheet color boxes), but still have weak points here and there. Mostly due to engineers and designers not thinking "how will a tech get to this screw or that bolt?". Silly stuff that someone should've caught before firing up the production line.
They're machines that need a technician who likes to think and read and question. I had a coworker who hated to read the manuals and liked to guess at adjustments - as well as WD-40 every damn thing. For obvious reasons, he's no longer around.
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)
Not anymore. I'm an onsite tech for a printshop and we recently switched over to Ricoh. Honestly, the Ricohs work out better overall, but it was a bragging point to be able to say I mastered those big, green boxes.
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)
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