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  • 20gaugeO/U
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 557

    #1

    [Misc] Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

    I have one customer that is a funeral home and runs the pre-printed bulletin stock on a Panasonic DP-405. The bulletin is letter size and has an image only on one half of the one side, from Tray 1 (just like church stuff). My problem is that this stock is chemically reacting with the feed rollers and they will fail prematurely, say 15k. I don't expect them to go 240k like the PM cycle says, but generally anything over 120k is good for me. I also score them with a razor blade to give them more grip. We use Panasonic feed rollers, but you can see the color change from blueish/gray color to green. But it only happens to the feed rollers on the side that is touching the image. They only have 2 drawers and run white legal paper in tray 2. I am waiting for someone else to trade in a 3rd and 4th tray configuration just so I can give it to them.

    My question is has anyone else experienced something like this or do they use non-OEM feed rollers with good results? Where from?

    If I put new feed rollers in it takes off and runs right away.....for a while. Luckily the customer is a friend of mine and completely understands and has seen the color change in the rollers first hand....cause he's sitting there BS'ing with me while I change them out. He also knows certain stocks feed better than others. He's very patient but a little frustrated. The owner's wife orders the stock and she orders what she likes....

    Thanks for any input.
  • doug94550
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Dec 2011
    • 138

    #2
    Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

    Hey 20Gauge,
    Well, as far as the stock goes, they know what they are doing so as for that "self inflicted wounds don't count".
    But here for you is my bestest Feed Tire fix.
    I know that it will sound counter intuitive but trust me, this works and I have been doing it for years, though not with the exact problem you have.
    Clean the rollers well with alcohol.
    Once dry, apply a thin coating of Castrol Synthetic motor oil and rub it in.
    I use 5W50 only because that is what I put into my Hyundai.
    Try it on one of your machines for a test. The ADF rollers are always a good test.
    Once done, those suckers will have grip like you will not believe.
    For me, this is part of my standard service for all of my machines.
    Will the oil react with the preprinted stock? Probably not since after applying the oil there is no residue.
    Good Luck.
    Doug

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    • 20gaugeO/U
      Senior Tech

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      • Feb 2009
      • 557

      #3
      Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

      Doug,
      I'll try anything with this machine. It's different but I like it. Some of the fixes we have to pull always makes me chuckle.
      Thanks again!

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      • 20gaugeO/U
        Senior Tech

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        • Feb 2009
        • 557

        #4
        Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

        Just wondering if you use this trick on any other brands of copiers that you might work on?

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        • doug94550
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          • Dec 2011
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          Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

          I pretty much use this trick on all makes and models.
          With some of the newest products, their rollers are made of a clear/colored semi-transparent material.
          On these, sometimes it works, other times it has no effect.
          But for the lions share of machines, I use this on all of them.
          So 20Gauge, how did this work on your problem child?
          Doug

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          • Billy Bob
            USMC
            • May 2011
            • 51

            #6
            Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

            we have a church customer with sim problem wd40 has always worked ,still only get 1/2 life (katun rollers) save hubs sometimes they dont match

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            • 20gaugeO/U
              Senior Tech

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              • Feb 2009
              • 557

              #7
              Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

              I had just put a new clutch and FT in before I posted so it will be a few more weeks before they call but I am locked and loaded to try it.

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              • 20gaugeO/U
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Feb 2009
                • 557

                #8
                Re: Feed Tires for color machines/80/60

                IMAG0801.jpg 11k copies and you can see the left set is turning green. Put new rollers in with oil on them so only time will tell. Thanks again.

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