MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to right

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  • knarfdnul
    Technician
    • Apr 2011
    • 27

    #1

    [Misc] MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to right

    Tray move left to right and back ok with Little paper. Full paper also ok to right tray - problem left does not move arm all the way back to the left. Tried changing the following parts from MPC4000 (same parts): mover plate with rim, gear assy with clutch - no change. The metal parts in left tray tried adjusted, and the metal under the tray. Right tray plate under paper height ok. Maybe a timing stops the tray because it takes about 6 seconds for normal move back to left and it looks as if it stops moving at that timing with full tray. Any ideas? (machine makes no SC503 or jam codes),
  • Zeldaman
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #2
    Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

    Hi there!
    Had this similar problem once, part of a gear on a shaft was sightly rounded - low paper OK, normal paper NG.
    Hope this helps.
    Greetings...

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    • knarfdnul
      Technician
      • Apr 2011
      • 27

      #3
      Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

      Originally posted by Zeldaman
      Hi there!
      Had this similar problem once, part of a gear on a shaft was sightly rounded - low paper OK, normal paper NG.
      Hope this helps.
      Greetings...
      Thank you for your reply. The gear under left is ok. When the gear is bad it normally will not finish move from left to right which is ok in this machine.

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      • mikadonovan
        Senior Tech

        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • May 2008
        • 2931

        #4
        Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

        This may be no help on this model, but if it's like a mp5500 there is a photointerrupter under the rear plate to the left that stops the fence. Might be something to check.
        NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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        • knarfdnul
          Technician
          • Apr 2011
          • 27

          #5
          Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

          I have cleared that sensor. I can not find the sensor info in 5803 in the servicemanual so I can test it but i assume it works it stops correctly with a low pile of paper.

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          • tjvincent
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Apr 2008
            • 280

            #6
            Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

            Replace the LCIT Main board, that was a problem from day 1, new board with an updated part number will fix your issue.

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            • sandmanmac
              Field Supervisor

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              2,500+ Posts
              • Feb 2009
              • 3979

              #7
              Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

              Any chance you're trying to get the Wrong tandem tray to work with the C4501. My gut tells me it might be the PB3050 from an MP C4000 that you've been swapping parts from, and not the PB3110 that actually goes with the machine.
              .....just a hunch
              Last edited by sandmanmac; 09-01-2015, 02:27 AM.

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              • knarfdnul
                Technician
                • Apr 2011
                • 27

                #8
                Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

                Originally posted by sandmanmac
                Any chance you're trying to get the Wrong tandem tray to work with the C4501. My gut tells me it might be the PB3050 from an MP C4000 that you've been swapping parts from, and not the PB3110 that actually goes with the machine.
                .....just a hunch
                I know the PB3110 i special compared to older LCITs, but many parts are the same - I have just tried with these parts for test since the error was allready there with the original parts.

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                • knarfdnul
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 27

                  #9
                  Re: MPC4501 LCIT tandem tray left side bad return after deliverering full tray to rig

                  Originally posted by knarfdnul
                  I know the PB3110 i special compared to older LCITs, but many parts are the same - I have just tried with these parts for test since the error was allready there with the original parts.
                  tjvincent thank you for your answer - I will try this - we have not seen this error before even though we have sold some from new. Ricoh have not heard of this in Denmark and Myricoh has no answers either.

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