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  • juve_10
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 3

    #1

    Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

    hello Everyone
    I have ricoh C6501 I got a problem that the yellow cartridge appear empty and it is half full. I replaced the toner cartridge with a new one but still show me same problem.

    Please if any one know what is the problem help me.

    thanks
  • Cipher
    It's not easy being green

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    • May 2006
    • 1309

    #2
    Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

    Has any service work been done recently.

    Such as a dev change?
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    • Getoner
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 8

      #3
      Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

      Originally posted by juve_10
      hello Everyone

      Please if any one know what is the problem help me.

      thanks

      It's a beast , and can be very touchy.

      This machine will not add toner to the dev units unless everything in dev setup is correct / complete . If it goes to add toner (twice) and fails for some reason the machine believes the
      toner is empty so it writes a 0 to the toner chip on the toner cartridge.
      You need to go over your dev setup settings sp3812 , sp3815 , sp3817 and make sure all is set proper - or fix problem found. ( many ricoh TSB on this )
      Confirm toner pump , toner end sensor , hose to sub hopper are not the source of the problem.
      If all is good above you can try and reset the chip on the cartridge using the machine ( Another ricoh TSB on how to do this )

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      • turbojetboy
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • Aug 2009
        • 279

        #4
        Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

        Originally posted by juve_10
        hello Everyone
        I have ricoh C6501 I got a problem that the yellow cartridge appear empty and it is half full. I replaced the toner cartridge with a new one but still show me same problem.

        Please if any one know what is the problem help me.

        thanks

        You will almost certainly need to replace the Y dev mix, and to be honest probably a hell of a lot more than that. Unless you REALLY know what your doing here this will end badly.

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        • noure1971
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 4

          #5
          Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

          i had the same problem i just change the pump

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          • juve_10
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 3

            #6
            Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

            thanks all
            I have tried reset the printer but didn't work too I guess i have ti change the chip

            Originally posted by noure1971
            i had the same problem i just change the pump
            how do I know the pump work in my machine, I am from saudi arabia any website sell it trough internet?

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            • noure1971
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 4

              #7
              Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

              Originally posted by juve_10
              thanks all
              I have tried reset the printer but didn't work too I guess i have ti change the chip



              how do I know the pump work in my machine, I am from saudi arabia any website sell it trough internet?
              I can find you yellow pump give tomorrow I will see if we have one in the store room

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              • Zaxxon
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Jan 2014
                • 608

                #8
                Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                Change Yellow developer AND yellow toner bag.
                Be carefull to empty the development unit totally, not a grain to be left behind.

                Follow the correct procedure for initialize the new developer.
                Please start you post with brand, model, problem.

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                • CRISTIAN MULLER
                  Trusted Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  100+ Posts
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 145

                  #9
                  Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                  Originally posted by Getoner
                  It's a beast , and can be very touchy.

                  This machine will not add toner to the dev units unless everything in dev setup is correct / complete . If it goes to add toner (twice) and fails for some reason the machine believes the
                  toner is empty so it writes a 0 to the toner chip on the toner cartridge.
                  You need to go over your dev setup settings sp3812 , sp3815 , sp3817 and make sure all is set proper - or fix problem found. ( many ricoh TSB on this )
                  Confirm toner pump , toner end sensor , hose to sub hopper are not the source of the problem.
                  If all is good above you can try and reset the chip on the cartridge using the machine ( Another ricoh TSB on how to do this )
                  I'm interested in how to reset the toner chip at this model.i can't find this tsb. Can you post or tell me what number it is?

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                  • bob marley
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1339

                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                    Originally posted by Zaxxon
                    Change Yellow developer AND yellow toner bag.
                    Be carefull to empty the development unit totally, not a grain to be left behind.

                    Follow the correct procedure for initialize the new developer.
                    yeap Zaxxon
                    Live for yourself and you will live in vain. Live for others, and you will live again

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                    • Getoner
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                      Originally posted by CRISTIAN MULLER
                      I'm interested in how to reset the toner chip at this model.i can't find this tsb. Can you post or tell me what number it is?

                      Bulletin Number : D081/D082 - 025 Reissue 1/25/2013 Subject: Add Toner Condition Reset

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                      • Gift
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2457

                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                        Don't start swapping parts without trying the easy/cheap trick first:

                        - disable independent toner manufacturer thingy SP
                        - upload NV ram to sd card
                        - perform engine memory clear
                        - restore nv ram backup from sd card

                        For some reason everything works fine after this procedure in most cases.
                        In order to make shure that the pump etc. works fine you should perform a high coverage test run afterwards.

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                        • juve_10
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                          Originally posted by Gift
                          Don't start swapping parts without trying the easy/cheap trick first:

                          - disable independent toner manufacturer thingy SP
                          - upload NV ram to sd card
                          - perform engine memory clear
                          - restore nv ram backup from sd card

                          For some reason everything works fine after this procedure in most cases.
                          In order to make shure that the pump etc. works fine you should perform a high coverage test run afterwards.

                          thank you bro, but can you tell me how to do that exactly. sorry I am a little bit lost.

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                          • Zaxxon
                            Senior Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 608

                            #14
                            Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                            Messing around with NV ram clear is a challenge, even for a non lost tech.
                            My advice is as always: "only do RAM clear at gunpoint..."
                            Please start you post with brand, model, problem.

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                            • CRISTIAN MULLER
                              Trusted Tech

                              Site Contributor
                              100+ Posts
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 145

                              #15
                              Re: Ricoh C6501 Toner cartridge Empty

                              See if last procon result shows 10101010.if it's different post here the result .and we see what happen. At service had a option that shows toner remains an status.if toner status is 0. U cannot do procon execute.try to put 10 what means full.and do the procon execute . But if toner chip has empty , you will have to change. I'm not with the manual right now but I will see what option it is and tell you.

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