Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

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  • aoab50
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 9

    #1

    Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

    My ricoh aficio mpc4500 has horizontal stripes on prints, when I print empty pages these horizontal stripes fade away after few pages and the empty papers comes out clean, but then re-appear when I print coloured pages. and these stripes appear on the back of the next pages also.
    I replaced the pcu unit for C, M and Y with some used pcu's but I got the same problem. I noticed that I don't have black stripes, so I replaced the charge roller of the black pcu with the cyan pcu, but the problem was the same.
    I cleaned the ITB cleaning unit and vacummed it but it didn't help. is there any way where I can make sure if this problem is caused by the itb cleaning unit.
    I've attached three pages, the first one was printed after I cleaned the printer by printing 10 empty pages, the second page was printed after 7 copies and the third page was printed after 30 copies. As you can see on the third page there is a magenta line also. these lines grow thicker and wider and denser after each print.
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  • mikadonovan
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • May 2008
    • 2931

    #2
    Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

    Since you have ruled out the PCU's, fuser and ITB is pretty much whats left.
    NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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    • solorajder
      Trusted Tech
      • Jul 2010
      • 106

      #3
      Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

      I think problem is that in developer unit is too much toner (If you will turning the magnetic roller the toner will smoking from developer unit)
      , this excess toner then transfers to charge roller and the cleaning blade,which you can see as stripes on copy.

      Sent from my GT-I9195I using Tapatalk

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      • banginbishop
        grumpy old git

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2007
        • 894

        #4
        Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

        And what's the pm counters showing on this machine? You've replaced parts but have you printed out the smc report?
        Incontinentia Buttocks

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        • Wishbone
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 100

          #5
          Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

          You need to replace your transfer belt cleaning unit.

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          • slimslob
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            • May 2013
            • 37532

            #6
            Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

            This appears to be a problem with just the cyan and magenta. When you replace a color PCU with a used PCU, the used PCU may also have a problem. Since the problem does not show for the yellow on your samples, try swapping the drum unit of the yellow with the drum unit of either the cyan or magenta. If the problem moved to the yellow, you need to replace the drum units with new drum units. Otherwise you need to replace the developers. Vacuum the development units completely. My guess is that the lubricant bar is almost completely worn. You can separate the drum unit and development unit, remove the drum from the drum unit and vacuum the toner that has built up between the cleaning blade and lubricant spreader blade. This will alleviate the problem for maybe a week or two.

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            • Polarbear
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2012
              • 1070

              #7
              Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

              Originally posted by slimslob
              This appears to be a problem with just the cyan and magenta. When you replace a color PCU with a used PCU, the used PCU may also have a problem. Since the problem does not show for the yellow on your samples, try swapping the drum unit of the yellow with the drum unit of either the cyan or magenta. If the problem moved to the yellow, you need to replace the drum units with new drum units. Otherwise you need to replace the developers. Vacuum the development units completely. My guess is that the lubricant bar is almost completely worn. You can separate the drum unit and development unit, remove the drum from the drum unit and vacuum the toner that has built up between the cleaning blade and lubricant spreader blade. This will alleviate the problem for maybe a week or two.
              Are you sure about the condition of your used pcus? I have had it before where the pcus when they get older keep residual voltage and this is the outcome.

              Have you tested your problem pcus in another machine?

              I tend to agree with the cleaning unit being the culprit, but also take a good look at the ITB. Grit and dirt gets in between the belt and the support rollers and can over time destroy a cleaning unit blade as the bumps shock the blade as they come past.
              Press the GREEN button!!

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              • andy227
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Jan 2013
                • 219

                #8
                Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

                another one for ITB cleaning unit. You changed the pcu's and its the same, plus the back of copy is also staining, which is another giveaway.

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                • slimslob
                  Retired

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                  • May 2013
                  • 37532

                  #9
                  Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

                  My problem with those saying that it is the ITB, ITB cleaning unit or the fusing unit is that it would show the black and yellow as well.

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                  • Iowatech
                    Not a service manager

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 3930

                    #10
                    Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    My problem with those saying that it is the ITB, ITB cleaning unit or the fusing unit is that it would show the black and yellow as well.
                    And the lines would run continuously around the entire length of the transfer or fusing belt. That shouldn't be too hard to see.

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                    • Counsel
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 529

                      #11
                      Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

                      Thats usually the ITB cleaning unit especially if you see them on the back of the pages. However you do usually see all the colors including black or yellow, in your case check that your Drum on the magenta and cyan do not have a band around their Drums, this is possibly cleaning blade failure on those PCUs as its the only 2 colors appearing in the print out.

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                      • solorajder
                        Trusted Tech
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 106

                        #12
                        Re: Horizontal color stripes with ricoh mpc4500

                        If the problem is in ITB cleaning unit, which I doubt , after some prints, stripes of all colour will be seen on transfer belt.

                        Sent from my GT-I9195I using Tapatalk

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