MPC4500 - Can you copy/print onto glossy Paper

[scoobysteve]

Hi All,

Just wondering if you can print onto glossy paper on the MPC series? From the printer driver, i can not find "Glossy" in the "Paper Type" however i can see that setting in the printer driver for a Ricoh SPC410/411DN printer. If so, what setting in paper type would use?

Also, anyone know where i can find out what the definition of "special paper 1,2,3 and thick 1,2,3" are?

thanks.

Regards,
Steve

[unisys12]

I got this list from the E-5000 (Fiery) PSG...

52 - 59g/m2 : Thin
60 - 81g/m2 : Normal
82 - 105g/m2 : Mid-Thick
106 - 169g/m2 : Thick 1
170 - 219g/m2 : Thick 2
220 - 253g/m2 : Thick 3 (only from by-pass)
* Use the paper weight converter on TSSC to convert all these if needed.

As long as it is a quality laser gloss paper, you should be fine. Just match the weight of the paper to the tray settings. I have run photos for demonstration purposes on KromaCoat paper, which is a really thick glossy paper. Just tell your customer not to run 50 of them in one run. Might produce a problem. I'm not sure because I have never done it, but I know that our instructor at Ricoh U told us not to do it.

Hope this helps.

[Star]

As far as the MPC3500-4500 go, I have noticed descrepancies in documentation. Some say the max is 57lb (216 gm2). Others say 67lb (251 gm2). This is through bypass only using Thick 3.

I have not had much luck with 67lb, especially on longer runs. So I believe that 57lb is the correct max weight.

Now: If you add a gloss or coating to the mix, the max weight won't be reliable either. In fact I am looking at a page from the product support guide that shows the recommended brands and types of paper, that lists coated/gloss paper at 31-32lb max using middle thick. (Hammermill and Wausau are the recommended brands listed.)

Basicly, the type of paper has a big effect on the weight that can be run. But few people (sales and end users) can comprehend this.

My 2 cents.

Regards

[Cipher]

A couple of the new MPC models coming out have six mini feed belts in the vertical transport to help do thick 3 from the trays.

[scoobysteve]

Hi All,

thanks for all your replies. it has been helpful.

I will have to find out the weight of the paper exactly but the list given by unisys12 from the PSG is a good guide.

The paper is laser gloss paper (because the client is buying it from Xerox and the Xerox salesman has insisted that their copiers have a gloss option in paper type for printing and copying).

So i will update as soon as i find out. once again, thanks guys.

[unisys12]

A couple of the new MPC models coming out have six mini feed belts in the vertical transport to help do thick 3 from the trays.

Yeah, I noticed when working on a Savin 9040 the other day that it had those mini feed belts in the paper path. Cute little buggers!

And on the subject of the glossy paper, I took a look at the Suggested Paper list in the PSG today and found that 32lb Bond (120g/m2) Laser Gloss can be run from any of the paper trays and should be run on a Thick 1 setting. It did state the uneven gloss might happen occasionally, but...

I was at a call today, on a little older color machine, and noticed that the PSG suggested that running the laser gloss paper in Plain Paper mode would produce a less glossy effect and running it in Thick 1 would produce a more glossy effect. I tried it and it actually worked. So you might want to play around with that a bit.

I have actually noticed that plain 24 or 28 pound bond paper does just as good. I actually suggest that my customers use that paper instead of the gloss. And after a demonstration them, they agree. Plus, when they see how much cheaper it is, they love it. The toner for these machines really shines on that paper, so you might even think about picking up a ream of that and taking it by the clients office and ask them if you could make a large test run for them. I know for a fact that it will run a whole ream of that with no problems. Just a thought.