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  • hodgiepodgie
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    • Jul 2008
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    #1

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    ok another ricoh 1035 problem i swear god is punishing me.jam at" A" paper remains in tray 1. replaced clutch tires lift motor and board.still misfeeds intermittanly.actuators look good will try sensors tomorrow.any other ideas.ALSO WILL MONITOR SENSOR OUTPUT TOMORROW.seems to be in tray one only.
  • Fearless V K
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • May 2007
    • 620

    #2
    Check the jam code. Depending on that, you may be able to adjust the paper feed timing in the SP modes.
    Don't take that toner with me!

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    • hodgiepodgie
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      #3
      ok jam codes are 003 1st paper feed sensor.do you thnk its a bad sensorhave to return will bring new sensors.

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      • hodgiepodgie
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        • Jul 2008
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        #4
        did adjust bucklehave to review sp to see if feed can be adjusted on this model could only find buckle adjust.;

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        • petrus
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          100+ Posts
          • Feb 2008
          • 155

          #5
          I have experiance that the plastic paper guide at paper entrence are folded.at the paper pickup assemblly.

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          • Baphomet
            Copier Technician

            250+ Posts
            • Aug 2008
            • 293

            #6
            Originally posted by hodgiepodgie
            did adjust bucklehave to review sp to see if feed can be adjusted on this model could only find buckle adjust.;
            It has been a few years since I worked on these, but I recall that when I would put the copier in test mode and engage and disengage the clutches, I could hear them click. When I would get the infamous 'A' jams, I would do this test and could usually hear the click be delayed indicating that the clutch was sticking. More times than not it was the transport clutch. In a number of cases I was unsure which clutch, so I would just replace all three (paper feed and transport). I know you said you replaced a clutch, but did you test more than the feed clutch? You might want to consider the clutches again.

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            • schooltech
              School District Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Jun 2008
              • 504

              #7
              I have to say that I wish these machines had modular feed stations, like their bigger brothers. Yeah, the sensors could be flaky, but given where they are located, that probably is not the case. Of course, they may have a ton of paper dust in them.

              Does the machine jam from any of the lower drawers? If not, then at least the transport clutch from drawer 1 is probably ok.

              Will any sheets of paper make it out and feed, or does it always jam? Another thing to look at is to make sure that the lift plate in the drawer is even-have you tried another drawer in that drawer, just-in-case?

              Sometimes these are a real pain. I had one of these do something similar, and after completely removing the side of the machine, duplex, side door, panels, guides, it ended up being something with the black side guide (I think it was a bit warped or something-it's been years ago.)

              Nonetheless, it was something that I didn't really see, but after replacing it, it worked. Just something to maybe check, if all else fails.
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              • Scott_Lewis
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Mar 2007
                • 519

                #8
                Originally posted by hodgiepodgie
                jam at" A" paper remains in tray 1.
                Paper remains in tray......

                If the pick-up roller isn't pushing the paper to the feed roller, then

                check to make sure tray is coming up to the proper height, is there anything bent around the height sensing actuators and sensor, does the tray push the white release lever all the way back, anything messed up with that mechanism that would keep the sep and pickup rollers from moving fully into position

                If the paper is pulled up to the feed/sep roller, then

                sep roller fully in contact with the feed roller (again the white release lever and downstream mechanism), is the feed roller shaft in good shape under the needle bearing of the feed roller (polish with hard scotchbrite), is the sep roller torque limiter ok

                tis all I kin think of at the moment

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                • hodgiepodgie
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #9
                  ok did not thnk of trnsport cltch because.paper did not budge even a mm from tray one.will RR TRANSPORT CLUTCHE does not seem to misfeed in any other tray.

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                  • hodgiepodgie
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Baphomet
                    It has been a few years since I worked on these, but I recall that when I would put the copier in test mode and engage and disengage the clutches, I could hear them click. When I would get the infamous 'A' jams, I would do this test and could usually hear the click be delayed indicating that the clutch was sticking. More times than not it was the transport clutch. In a number of cases I was unsure which clutch, so I would just replace all three (paper feed and transport). I know you said you replaced a clutch, but did you test more than the feed clutch? You might want to consider the clutches again.
                    will try transport clutche

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                    • hodgiepodgie
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Scott_Lewis
                      Paper remains in tray......

                      If the pick-up roller isn't pushing the paper to the feed roller, then

                      check to make sure tray is coming up to the proper height, is there anything bent around the height sensing actuators and sensor, does the tray push the white release lever all the way back, anything messed up with that mechanism that would keep the sep and pickup rollers from moving fully into position

                      If the paper is pulled up to the feed/sep roller, then

                      sep roller fully in contact with the feed roller (again the white release lever and downstream mechanism), is the feed roller shaft in good shape under the needle bearing of the feed roller (polish with hard scotchbrite), is the sep roller torque limiter ok

                      tis all I kin think of at the moment
                      replcd hub and tqlmtr every thing looks to be working properly as far as actuators etc

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                      • hjvol
                        Technician
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 25

                        #12
                        you would find if you remove the bypass feed tyres and torque limitter that the machine will run better , if so ,your feeding section is running tight....

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                        • hodgiepodgie
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                          #13
                          Ok i thnk it was transfer roller.problem was in my face ,couldnt see the forest through the trees:d

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                          • neilt69
                            TEAM WORKS
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 17

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hodgiepodgie
                            ok another ricoh 1035 problem i swear god is punishing me.jam at" A" paper remains in tray 1. replaced clutch tires lift motor and board.still misfeeds intermittanly.actuators look good will try sensors tomorrow.any other ideas.ALSO WILL MONITOR SENSOR OUTPUT TOMORROW.seems to be in tray one only.
                            just some tip hodgepodge u said it only happens in tray1, that means 2nd tray is good, hav u tried shifting tray2 in tray1 slot, if u tried and still problem persist go to the drive side. observe how the clutches behave using 2nd tray & compare it with the 1st tray clutches hope u might see some difference. and try putting 2nd tray clutch to 1st tray cltch and run it for 200 copies. in my experience i havent changed any sensors in the feeding section only clean them but in 300-400k copies i change fd clutches together with the relay clutch. check the drive belt teeths and and its gears. GOD is with u I know ull make it through

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                            • hodgiepodgie
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                              #15
                              right probably was relay clutche i was calling it transfer clutche.i thnk problem was relay

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