I'm about to move into these machines from the MP201spf and would greatly appreciate everyone's opinion on these machines compared to the older version MP201? Thanks in advanced for your time!
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
Prepare for lots of premature PDCU replacements... And the ADF is kinda Meh. Otherwise similar in most other respects. Fusers are different too. -
Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
They changed the Doc Feeder to a Sep Pad Type...WHY?
Also get all of the 201 toner out of that place cause they'll try and put it in the 301 and break the toner handle off.IzzyComment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
Way to make lemonade out of a lemon! You found something good about them. Fusers will not last nearly as long, PCU's will not last as long (until you adapt the old type 1515) Doc feed was mentioned, They took a fairly solid design that they had been making for years and trashed it.Originally posted by terramobilComment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
so is the toner the same from 301 compared to a 171,201 series?Comment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
Hadster
We had issues with fuser jams from day 1. Through trial and error we found that replacing the strippers (with springs and holders) from the mp201 series, solves this. We do it as standard as part of setup on all MP301s and have a very good success rate this way. Previous hotrollers won't fit this fuser as there are 2 slots on the gear side.
+1 on the pcu failures.
The friction pad design on the df is poor and they don't last like the previous series that still had a roller for separation.
The scanners are also not dust proof (like they look) and it is a pain to get to the ccd ass'y to clean. Lots of small bits in the assembly and getting to all the mirrors is time consuming.
So far it seems like the right doors are more durable than before, as they have redesigned the location of the mechanism and the holders - only time will tell.Press the GREEN button!!Comment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
I don't like the 301 series - DF and overall design is totally flimsy and we have way more calls for this bugger compared to the previous models MP201/171...
Don't sell it if the customer make more than 2,5k prints/month
Don't sell it if the customer needs a reliable and solid scanner solution // this DF is ok for doing some scans and copies "now and then" but not for any kind of professional usage imhoComment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
With these things I'm getting an average of between 15-30k depending on the environment. Not had a fuser melt itself together for a while though.It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it.Comment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
I think we've had a few of these models put out in the field as "newsed" (newly used) machines...I think we've stopped selling them though!....we not to long ago started dealing in Kyocera....been selling them like hotcakes!....AND Kyocera R&D with consumables, drums and fusers kicks the SH!T out of Ricoh!
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
About the only change i like was making the machine a bit wider front to rear to get the fuser out/in easier and able to get at the wire connectors pretty much a short list of likes cause thats about it. The adf not great, doesn't feed well, can't open it all the way to clean the glass without holding the top up, getting to optics is a pain. PCU's don't last, the PTR on the door has issues with squealing due to the lube they put in the bushing turning toner into muck, the dusting in this machine is like a haze of stickyness sucks to clean out.
Of the one thing they could have changed which is moving the exit sensor to the front side of the machine where the rear fan doesn't suck all the dust and lint across it they did not move it, they could have just moved this sensor and kept making the old machine and life would have been just as well.Comment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
Bit late to the party on this one, but these machines are pretty much junk.
I have a pile of them that I unfortunately have to work on.
My experience with them is anything out of a PCU past 20K is a bonus. I have had better luck with using the 1515 drums, although they will fail early as well; just not as often and in general, last longer.
The fusers are also problematic as I have had a pile of hot rollers that are supposed to go 90k, last anywhere from 20k-40k or so. Basically, the thermistor marks the roller and you get a nice black mark down the middle of the page. I have lost track of the number of times I have gone into a machine with 20k something and had to replace both drum and hot roller.
BTW, with all the PCU issues, they are messy machines because they will throw toner/developer all over the inside of the machine.
In addition, you have to keep a closer eye on the transfer roller because of the higher speed. I find myself replacing those more often, mostly as a result of grinding noises (gear gets ground down where it meshes with the drum unit) than any real wear on the roller itself.
The DF, others have covered fairly well in terms of its limitations/issues, although I was not a fan of the 171 DF either.
As far as the toner goes, the toner in the bottle is the exact same thing, but the bottles are different. The bottle was changed because the 171 series uses a toner add clutch while the 301 uses a toner add motor.
Part of the issue with these that cause issues is they get misplaced in roles they were not meant to be in. Some of my machines having very heavy volume (7-9K+ a month) and customers using it more as a scanner (they scan stacks and stacks and stacks of documents) it can cause a very bad taste. Run it like it should be run (light duty 2-5k a month max) and most of the time, it behaves itself and runs pretty good.
I guess I should not mention the absolute fun it is to tear the power supply and laser out to get to the intermediate connector for the tray 1 paper end switch that gets yanked out on occasion when the switch gets knocked loose and then pushed back by the drawer. (I have gotten to do that twice).Comment
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Re: MP 301spf ? What do you think of these and how are they doing in the field so far
Sorry, it's been awhile but I wanted to thank everyone for there thoughts!Comment
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