SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

[sturmtrooper]

I've replaced the BICU per the manual about the 161-03 code. I had initially put a BICU for a 6002 in by accident, but undid that. That is when it started throwing the 188 code. I never actually ran anything with the wrong board in, just turned it on. I"ve checked every connector on both ends of the CIS and all the connectors that connect to the BICU and they are all in good.

My plan for tomorrow is to update the firmware.

Any suggestions?

[sandmanmac]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

If I'm understanding you correctly, you now have the proper BICU installed, and SC188 remain?
My guess is that the wrong BICU took out the CIS...but that's just a guess.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

I now have the correct BICU installed.

[sandmanmac]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

I now have the correct BICU installed.

Then I'll stick with my 'guess'

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Then I'll stick with my 'guess'

I suppose it's possible but the pinouts are the same on both boards so it's not like a 12v signal got sent to a 5v pin.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Replaced the NVRAM on the BCU and the 288 code went away. The 161-03 did popup once. It has coin op attached to it which I wish to blame at this point lol.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Yesterday I called the tech support for coin op machine. Went through some things with them and based on my answers they believe the main board of the coin op is bad. Unit is under warranty though so they are sending us a new board.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

The saga continues. Machine started throwing a code saying mechanical counter issue, putting in a different counter did not help. Along with continuing SC161-03 when powered on. So I have again replaced the BCU, and the EEPROM on the BCU as a set on advise of Ricoh tech support. So far no codes, but it's still not sending a signal to the coin op to count copies. I've put in the new control board for the coin machine that the manufacturer sent me and again, no change.

I want to burn this machine to the ground.

[vergonazo]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

If you have replaced the eprom and the bicu its feaseable that now you would need to install the external counter as though you were doing it for the first time so you need to go into sp modes and disable and enable it again.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

If you have replaced the eprom and the bicu its feaseable that now you would need to install the external counter as though you were doing it for the first time so you need to go into sp modes and disable and enable it again.

The copier and counter work ok. It's the coin op part that isn't.

[slimslob]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

The saga continues. Machine started throwing a code saying mechanical counter issue

Mechanical counter issues normally have to do with the mechanical counter located behind the lower right inner cover below the development unit. You may have not reconnected it properly when your installed the Coin Op unit, as this is the area where you would be connecting the key counter leads for interfacing with the coin op.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Mechanical counter issues normally have to do with the mechanical counter located behind the lower right inner cover below the development unit. You may have not reconnected it properly when your installed the Coin Op unit, as this is the area where you would be connecting the key counter leads for interfacing with the coin op.

The coin op was installed on this machine about a year ago. The connector for it is on the side by the LCT hookup point. I think the machine throwing the counter issues was just a symptom of a dying board because I put a different counter on it and it did not help. But after replacing the BCU (again) it now works.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Ok, so I've figured out that the SC161-03 issue was caused by the IPU being bad, replaced IPU board and it hasn't returned. The mechanical coutner issue was from a damaged BCU. I learned this when the support for the coin machine asked me to measure voltage across two wires coming from the copier to the coin box. This caused the machine to throw up a functional problem screen then give out the mechanical counter error SC code after reboot.

So for the record this machine has had two BCU's replaced and one IPU. Good god.

After talking to coin company support again I got in touch with someone who also has copier experience. His suggestion was that a firmware update may have caused the machine to stop playing nice with the coin box. Instead of sending 0v to the coin machine and then a 24v pulse on copy it's probably sending like 5v all the time and never getting to zero.

His suggestion was getting a Type A key counter interface board from ricoh. I'm going to try rolling back the firmware to about where the machine was when we first installed it before spending money on a board.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Changing firmware did nothing. Type A board should be here shortly. God I hate coin machines so much.

[sturmtrooper]

Re: SC161-03 and SC188 on MP6001SP

Well to finish this train wreck up I installed the type A key counter interface board and a new cable to the coin machine designed to fit said board and it works just fine now.

Damn coin machines.