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  • info@digitaalprint.be
    Technician
    • Aug 2016
    • 33

    #1

    [Electrical] MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

    Have two MP 9000 in the field and either runs the . Someone a clue. The firmware version 6:05.
    thanks
    Patrick
  • slimslob
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    • May 2013
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    #2
    Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

    Runs the what?

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    • sturmtrooper
      Copier Combobulator

      500+ Posts
      • May 2016
      • 587

      #3
      Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

      I think what you are trying to get at is that the cleaning web unit no longer runs. Check all the mechanical parts and make sure nothing is bound up. If that looks good try replacing the motor. Part number is AX04 0147 from the US parts manual.

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      • fshead
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 2356

        #4
        Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

        Originally posted by sturmtrooper
        I think what you are trying to get at is that the cleaning web unit no longer runs. Check all the mechanical parts and make sure nothing is bound up. If that looks good try replacing the motor. Part number is AX04 0147 from the US parts manual.
        you can swap the charge cleaning motor in a pinch,just need to solder the wires from old"nonworking"motor as the wires are too short.
        you can also take paint thinner on bad motor shaft and spin the shaft for a while with a portable drill and see if it "frees up".
        i dont always have one with me and i have had RUNS of them going bad in multiple machines,sort of like the upper fuser drive gear..

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        • info@digitaalprint.be
          Technician
          • Aug 2016
          • 33

          #5
          Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

          Originally posted by fshead
          you can swap the charge cleaning motor in a pinch,just need to solder the wires from old"nonworking"motor as the wires are too short.
          you can also take paint thinner on bad motor shaft and spin the shaft for a while with a portable drill and see if it "frees up".
          i dont always have one with me and i have had RUNS of them going bad in multiple machines,sort of like the upper fuser drive gear..
          The problem is before the fixing unit. I changed the unit with two other units, and the problem is the same.

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          • fshead
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 2356

            #6
            Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

            Originally posted by info@digitaalprint.be
            The problem is before the fixing unit. I changed the unit with two other units, and the problem is the same.

            For that type of problem you need to Call in a tech,not all problems can be fixed by print shop staff

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            • Mark Bbb
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jun 2012
              • 1662

              #7
              Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

              There was a modification on the cleaning web ass'y for the mp4000 because of similar problems.
              Perhaps it is the same in this model?
              Perhaps you can remove the cleaning web ass'y, activate the sensor and then checked it out?
              My gess is a drive problem to the web gear...

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              • Imprestik
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Aug 2012
                • 296

                #8
                Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                I have had this a couple of times on these devices

                I/O board is shot

                Follow the wiring diagram and work out which CN it is on the I/O board

                Re seat the plug first, if not replace the I/O board

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                • fshead
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2356

                  #9
                  Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                  Originally posted by Imprestik
                  I have had this a couple of times on these devices

                  I/O board is shot

                  Follow the wiring diagram and work out which CN it is on the I/O board

                  Re seat the plug first, if not replace the I/O board
                  it would be odd on two machines at the same time,can happen.
                  my concern is either he has limited english skills or he doesnt sound like a tech,
                  he doesnt even offer initail things i ve done so far..cked the motor,cked the drive gears,ran service similation mode and cked etc etc
                  its like asking for help for bad CQ and not even providing
                  what i have done so far...

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                  • gkalman2004
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 157

                    #10
                    Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                    Originally posted by fshead
                    it would be odd on two machines at the same time,can happen.
                    my concern is either he has limited english skills or he doesnt sound like a tech,
                    he doesnt even offer initail things i ve done so far..cked the motor,cked the drive gears,ran service similation mode and cked etc etc
                    its like asking for help for bad CQ and not even providing
                    what i have done so far...
                    True first everybody need the error code to tell something about, next some better english description of the problem if no error code exist.
                    I have one mp 9002 with 2,332,301 copies and i never replaced fuser (... fixing unit is a canon tech language :-) )

                    And ...if both fusing unit reach the end of the web unit, the motor can't rotate more you must put a new web

                    Ps. It is not enough to change the unit you must activate also in the services menu again the web unit
                    After replacing the web with a new one, you must execute SP1902-001 (Fusing Web Used Area
                    Display/Setting) to reset the web consumption count to zero. This SP code must be executed to release SC550.
                    (must delete the value from the sp1902-001)

                    Ps2. if you move one used fuser to other machine you must copy the sp1902-001 value to the next machine to not damage the fuser when the web reach the end......
                    Last edited by gkalman2004; 09-27-2016, 06:33 PM.

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                    • info@digitaalprint.be
                      Technician
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 33

                      #11
                      Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                      Originally posted by gkalman2004
                      True first everybody need the error code to tell something about, next some better english description of the problem if no error code exist.
                      I have one mp 9000 with 2,332,301 copies and i never replaced fuser (... fixing unit is a canon tech language :-) )

                      And ...if both fusing unit reach the end of the web unit the motor can't rotate more you must put a new web

                      Ps. It is not enough to change the unit you must activate also in the services menu again the web unit
                      After replacing the web with a new one, you must execute SP1902-001 (Fusing Web Used Area
                      Display/Setting) to reset the web consumption count to zero. This SP code must be executed to
                      release SC550.
                      (must delete the value from the sp1902-001)
                      Colleagues problem is solved. The firm wire was upgraded to 6:05. With this version you need to replace the BCU board. You need BCU from the PRO 906 EX. D101 5220 - PCB: BCU: ass'y (Model C3.5) and the web turns.
                      Patrick

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                      • Mark Bbb
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1662

                        #12
                        Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                        BCU?
                        Rather drastic...
                        My guess.

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                        • info@digitaalprint.be
                          Technician
                          • Aug 2016
                          • 33

                          #13
                          Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                          Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                          BCU?
                          Rather drastic...
                          My guess.
                          Yes, it is necessary if you upgrade to firmware 6:05. The small board next to the large is enough. Does not cost much.

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                          • info@digitaalprint.be
                            Technician
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 33

                            #14
                            Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                            Originally posted by info@digitaalprint.be
                            Colleagues problem is solved. The firm wire was upgraded to 6:05. With this version you need to replace the BCU board. You need BCU from the PRO 906 EX. D101 5220 - PCB: BCU: ass'y (Model C3.5) and the web turns.
                            Patrick

                            My English is not so good. Sorry about that. I can if you want to reply in French and Spanish. Maybe you can give me answers in Dutch; French ore Spanish? The reset of the cleaning belt you do not need me to explain. I teach here in Belgium on the machines. If I report a problem; then it really is a PROBLEM !!

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                            • slimslob
                              Retired

                              Site Contributor
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                              • May 2013
                              • 36854

                              #15
                              Re: MP 9000 web engine turns anymore

                              Originally posted by info@digitaalprint.be
                              My English is not so good. Sorry about that. I can if you want to reply in French and Spanish. Maybe you can give me answers in Dutch; French ore Spanish? The reset of the cleaning belt you do not need me to explain. I teach here in Belgium on the machines. If I report a problem; then it really is a PROBLEM !!

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