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  • liontech
    Technician
    • Dec 2010
    • 12

    #1

    Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

    Hi guysI have a strange problem with ricoh mp7502When printing a job, the temperature drops a lot, starts at normal temperature (190) and falls to 160 !.It does not throw sc code in the screen, but in history it appears sc991.I changed everything, fuser rollers, lamps, drum, developer, boards, I use original and generic toner and the temperature drops tooObviously, it does not blow the toner.any ideas?
  • ruben
    The New Guy

    1,000+ Posts
    • Oct 2012
    • 1203

    #2
    Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

    SC991 is generic software error. Most of the time it can be cured by updating the firmware, however, sometimes it is a fault in the BCU or RAM.
    If you check the values of SP7-403 it should tell you a bit more about the code, Ricoh will need this information if you contact them.

    Does the SC appear at the same time that the temp drops? Does it drop immediately or during printing?

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    • liontech
      Technician
      • Dec 2010
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

      Originally posted by ruben
      SC991 is generic software error. Most of the time it can be cured by updating the firmware, however, sometimes it is a fault in the BCU or RAM.
      If you check the values of SP7-403 it should tell you a bit more about the code, Ricoh will need this information if you contact them.

      Does the SC appear at the same time that the temp drops? Does it drop immediately or during printing?




      Thanks for the replyThe code appears when the temperature drops.From the fifth copy begins to decrease the temperature

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      • Batman1976
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Jun 2016
        • 88

        #4
        Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

        Hi,

        Just a thought............ There was a similar fault related to temperture issues on the previous models (MP6002). The bracket of the thermistor was modifyed within the fuser unit. Might be worth a quick check of the thermistors and the position of the securing bracket. Also an SP mode was changed

        Set Sp 1105-002 (Fuser temperture adjustment normal time) to 180 sec (defualt 190)

        Also check following sp's are all at defualt

        1105-001
        1105-003~14
        1107-001~24

        hope that helps

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        • Mark Bbb
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jun 2012
          • 1662

          #5
          Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

          Are you sure this temperature drop is abnormal?
          Have you checked with another mp7502?
          Like Ruben said, sc991 doesn't have to relate to this issue.
          If it was a fuser issue, would it than not provoke sc5** fuser error codes?

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          • liontech
            Technician
            • Dec 2010
            • 12

            #6
            Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

            Originally posted by Batman1976
            Hi,

            Just a thought............ There was a similar fault related to temperture issues on the previous models (MP6002). The bracket of the thermistor was modifyed within the fuser unit. Might be worth a quick check of the thermistors and the position of the securing bracket. Also an SP mode was changed

            Set Sp 1105-002 (Fuser temperture adjustment normal time) to 180 sec (defualt 190)

            Also check following sp's are all at defualt

            1105-001
            1105-003~14
            1107-001~24

            hope that helps


            Yes, the bracket is correct, I checked a bulletin that talked about that and the temperatures are well configured.Thank you very much for the reply

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            • liontech
              Technician
              • Dec 2010
              • 12

              #7
              Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

              Originally posted by Mark Bbb
              Are you sure this temperature drop is abnormal?
              Have you checked with another mp7502?
              Like Ruben said, sc991 doesn't have to relate to this issue.
              If it was a fuser issue, would it than not provoke sc5** fuser error codes?


              I think so. I did tests on similar machines and the temperature drops from 190 to 184, 185.The machine is installed at 2000m above sea level, but I do not think that influences because there are many machines in that place and they do not present flaws.thanks for your help

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              • Cipher
                It's not easy being green

                1,000+ Posts
                • May 2006
                • 1309

                #8
                Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops
                • Test the fusing lamps with a multi-meter and check they are all working.
                • Clean / replace the thermistors.


                The hot roller is only a thin teflon coated roller, so the paper as it passes though at 75ppm will remove some of that heat.
                • Knowledge not shared, is eventually knowledge that becomes lost... like tears in the rain.

                Fully qualified technician for Ricoh - Canon - Sharp - HP - Brother

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                • Mark Bbb
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1662

                  #9
                  Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

                  if there is no toner on your finger when rubbing over the paper, I don't think there is a problem.
                  You must know that - due to environment issues - fusing of toner is much more efficient than on earlier models.
                  (and I think that is good.)

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                  • Mark Bbb
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 1662

                    #10
                    Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

                    Originally posted by Cipher
                    • Test the fusing lamps with a multi-meter and check they are all working.
                    • Clean / replace the thermistors.


                    The hot roller is only a thin teflon coated roller, so the paper as it passes though at 75ppm will remove some of that heat.
                    it could be that one (of the 2) is not working..., precisely

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                    • Batman1976
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 88

                      #11
                      Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

                      Originally posted by liontech
                      Yes, the bracket is correct, I checked a bulletin that talked about that and the temperatures are well configured.Thank you very much for the reply

                      Have you fitted the new type Cleaning Webb to stop the build up of paper dust?

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                      • kannuki2
                        Trusted Tech
                        250+ Posts
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 398

                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

                        I wonder if someone was playing with the Sp mode. Perhaps changed to 150

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                        • liontech
                          Technician
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 12

                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh mp7502 Temperature drops

                          Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                          if there is no toner on your finger when rubbing over the paper, I don't think there is a problem.
                          You must know that - due to environment issues - fusing of toner is much more efficient than on earlier models.
                          (and I think that is good.)




                          Guys, the problem was low input voltage, I had to buy voltage stabilizer.Thank you very much for your comments.
                          Sorry for the delay in responding.

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