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  • Mark Bbb
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jun 2012
    • 1662

    mpc2050 -51 noise

    If someone can tell us what exactly needs to be lubricated to elliminate all the regular noises on these models - without replacing parts - we are willing to pay you the amount you want.
    You can send me a private message.
    Thanks in advance.
  • FrohnB
    Service Manager

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    • Jul 2017
    • 1919

    #2
    Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

    Grease the sep pads in the paper trays (all the points that slide down into the groove. Replace the springs on lube bars in PCUs (they have "updated" springs now), or you can stretch the original springs a smidge. As for the fuser grumble, nothing to lubricate there, just have to replace that.
    Omertà

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    • Gab
      Senior Tech
      • Aug 2015
      • 633

      #3
      Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

      Originally posted by Mark Bbb
      If someone can tell us what exactly needs to be lubricated to elliminate all the regular noises on these models - without replacing parts - we are willing to pay you the amount you want.
      You can send me a private message.
      Thanks in advance.
      also you cAN USE VESELINE. in fusing unit black grease.

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
        • 35061

        #4
        Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

        Originally posted by FrohnB
        Grease the sep pads in the paper trays (all the points that slide down into the groove. Replace the springs on lube bars in PCUs (they have "updated" springs now), or you can stretch the original springs a smidge. As for the fuser grumble, nothing to lubricate there, just have to replace that.
        There was a bulletin on that 7 years ago.
        Attached Files

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        • Mark Bbb
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jun 2012
          • 1662

          #5
          Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

          Originally posted by FrohnB
          Grease the sep pads in the paper trays (all the points that slide down into the groove. Replace the springs on lube bars in PCUs (they have "updated" springs now), or you can stretch the original springs a smidge. As for the fuser grumble, nothing to lubricate there, just have to replace that.
          Thank you for your reply.
          Would the springs be the issue? Have you tried it yourself?

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          • FrohnB
            Service Manager

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            • Jul 2017
            • 1919

            #6
            Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

            The updated springs (AA063690 - shorter and not as flimsy) will get rid of the high-pitched squeal for a while. Have put them in many units, especially after the tech bulletin was released, but in a pinch, I've just "stretched" the original springs, so that hopefully it will give a little more down force on the lube bar. Takes about a minute per unit to change out those springs and they're cheap!
            Omertà

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            • granata
              Technician
              • Jan 2012
              • 30

              #7
              Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

              the problem encountered in the field and the dust of paper that settles in those points. replace the pad and solve the vibrations

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              • Mark Bbb
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jun 2012
                • 1662

                #8
                Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                I will clean the pcu's and remove the lubricant bar and test without them to see if it is better.
                If it is (better), then you are wright and i owe you one.
                Might take awhile because there is a lot to do here.

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                • Phil B.
                  Field Supervisor

                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 22808

                  #9
                  Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                  Originally posted by Gab
                  also you cAN USE VESELINE. in fusing unit black grease.
                  if you are talking about Vaseline... that is a VERY low temperature substance... IT WILL NOT LAST LONG in a fusing unit.

                  get some high temp bearing grease or buy the Ricoh hitemp fuser grease. They have specs for lubes for a REASON!

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                  • slimslob
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                    • May 2013
                    • 35061

                    #10
                    Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                    Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                    Thank you for your reply.
                    Would the springs be the issue? Have you tried it yourself?
                    As for if I have tried it, yes. In verified amounts and only on the points shown in the bulletin. White lithium is good. Vaseline will not work. Read the bulletin!!!

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                    • Mark Bbb
                      Service Manager

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                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1662

                      #11
                      Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                      sp5804 - 47 is checking the movement of the Magenta drum.
                      I have removed the lubricant bar from this unit and checked with this sp, and... the noise is the same...
                      So, question remains...

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                      • davel
                        Technician

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1045

                        #12
                        Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                        The noise is from not enough lube on drum and now you have removed it completely, put lube bar back in with new springs and try again.

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                        • Mark Bbb
                          Service Manager

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                          • Jun 2012
                          • 1662

                          #13
                          Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                          Originally posted by davel
                          The noise is from not enough lube on drum and now you have removed it completely, put lube bar back in with new springs and try again.
                          OK, i thought the noise would be the friction between the lub bar and drum...
                          Now i understand!
                          Thanks!

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                          • Mark Bbb
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 1662

                            #14
                            Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                            I have replaced all 8 pcu lubricant pressure springs (AA063690), and you know what?
                            It's still beeping.
                            So, my guess is that the lubri bar is almost empty, thus not giving pressure enough onto the drum, even with the modificated springs...
                            So, if you want to solve this issue well, you need to replace the lubricant bar.
                            Anyone has tried this?
                            Anyone knows where to order this lubricant bar?

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                            • JDYAL
                              Trusted Tech

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                              • Sep 2008
                              • 186

                              #15
                              Re: mpc2050 -51 noise

                              Are you sure the noise is coming from the drum units? Also check the exit section. I have had high pitched squeak from there on these machines.

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