Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

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  • fshead
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    Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

    hi
    I have a mpc3002 that has been sitting wth a shattered control panel.
    I changed the touch screen but the 2nd brd behind it shows cracks too and
    I am trying to get it running to test my batch of fuser units i plan on rebuilding
    to have on the shelf when busy.
    I dont have any mpc4502 in the field but found a cheap working used one.
    Do you see anything that can make it "not" worth a chance to try?
  • FrohnB
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    #2
    Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

    No. C3002 = D1421411 and C4502/5502 = D1441401. Have tried it before and get a code or error message or non start of screen or something, can't remember exactly, but they don't cross over.
    Omertà

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    • fshead
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      #3
      Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

      Originally posted by FrohnB
      No. C3002 = D1421411 and C4502/5502 = D1441401. Have tried it before and get a code or error message or non start of screen or something, can't remember exactly, but they don't cross over.
      thanks
      do you think the "video brd" crosses over?

      i gotta ck the parts manual........

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      • FrohnB
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        Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

        PCB: OP R and L (under the keys and such) are the same.
        LCDC: TFT: WVGA are the same between C3002 and 4502.
        Touch Panels are different D1291422 for 4502 and D1291421 for 3002.
        PCB: LCDC: FT boards are different. D1441441 C4502 and D1421441 C3002. (I think this is the board you are talking about that is also cracked? Sits right underneath the Touch screen).
        Last edited by FrohnB; 05-03-2019, 05:51 PM. Reason: more info
        Omertà

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        • fshead
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          #5
          Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

          Originally posted by FrohnB
          PCB: OP R and L (under the keys and such) are the same.
          LCDC: TFT: WVGA are the same between C3002 and 4502.
          Touch Panels are different D1291422 for 4502 and D1291421 for 3002.
          PCB: LCDC: FT boards are different. D1441441 C4502 and D1421441 C3002. (I think this is the board you are talking about that is also cracked? Sits right underneath the Touch screen).
          thank you..
          I sometimes get lost looking thru the parts manual...

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          • francisco
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            #6
            Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

            Originally posted by fshead
            hi
            I have a mpc3002 that has been sitting wth a shattered control panel.
            I changed the touch screen but the 2nd brd behind it shows cracks too and
            I am trying to get it running to test my batch of fuser units i plan on rebuilding
            to have on the shelf when busy.
            I dont have any mpc4502 in the field but found a cheap working used one.
            Do you see anything that can make it "not" worth a chance to try?
            yes you can
            just put the right panel firmware.
            i had tried and it works

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            • fshead
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              #7
              Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

              Originally posted by francisco
              yes you can
              just put the right panel firmware.
              i had tried and it works
              hi
              Are you 100% sure as I have no need for a mpc5502 panel.
              Previous posts say you get a code or nonresponse of screen..
              Did that occur and doing mpc3002 op panel FW brought it back
              and functioning on a mpc3002?

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              • francisco
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                #8
                Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                Originally posted by fshead
                hi
                Are you 100% sure as I have no need for a mpc5502 panel.
                Previous posts say you get a code or nonresponse of screen..
                Did that occur and doing mpc3002 op panel FW brought it back
                and functioning on a mpc3002?

                100% sure
                FW MPC3002
                D1421492F(op panel) D1421499C(lang)

                FW MPC5502
                D1441492F and D1441499C

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                • fshead
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                  #9
                  Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                  thanks I APPRECIATE THAT...........

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                  • FrohnB
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                    #10
                    Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                    Originally posted by fshead
                    thanks I APPRECIATE THAT...........
                    Let us know if it works! Inquiring minds would like to know.
                    Omertà

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                    • fshead
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                      #11
                      Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                      Originally posted by FrohnB
                      Let us know if it works! Inquiring minds would like to know.
                      will do
                      have not bought the panel yet still trying to get it cheaper as other machines are more important right now..

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                      • davel
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                        #12
                        Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                        Just fitted MPC4500 LCD to MPC2000 and it worked fine.

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                        • fshead
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                          #13
                          Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                          As this mpc3002 i wanted to revive was just to test my fuser rebuilds for that series i waited for a cheap option.
                          I ended up finding a mp400/mp5002 b/w OP PANEL.
                          IT identical and came up w/out even doing any FW updates..Will do the OP panel FW for the mpc3002

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                          • fshead
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                            #14
                            Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                            Originally posted by fshead
                            As this mpc3002 i wanted to revive was just to test my fuser rebuilds for that series i waited for a cheap option.
                            I ended up finding a mp400/mp5002 b/w OP PANEL.
                            IT identical and came up w/out even doing any FW updates..Will do the OP panel FW for the mpc3002
                            just did the mpc3002 op panel FW and then updated engine,system and all the rest in normal
                            manner and I see no issues using a mp4000/mp5000 OP panel in a mpc3002......
                            This is my test bed unit for some fusers i am rebuilding and need to test if aftermarket sleeves
                            work without fuser codes and fuse toner properly

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                            • kleankopy
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                              #15
                              Re: Can I use a mpc4502 control panel on a mpc3002?

                              Good luck with those aftermarket sleeves. We tried but they failed within a few months.

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