MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

[tinalt]

I dont have much hope, but I have a customer with both an old MPC4500 and a newer MPC4503. The color output on the mpc4500 is what they have become used to. The MPC4503 printer much close to what is on the screen. Anyone have any pointer for making the new machines look like an old machine? The main color issues are the grays need to be more brown, and the purples need to be less blue. I have been trying driver tweaks but have not had any luck so far.

[guitar9199]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

I dont have much hope, but I have a customer with both an old MPC4500 and a newer MPC4503. The color output on the mpc4500 is what they have become used to. The MPC4503 printer much close to what is on the screen. Anyone have any pointer for making the new machines look like an old machine? The main color issues are the grays need to be more brown, and the purples need to be less blue. I have been trying driver tweaks but have not had any luck so far.

So... they've "gotten used" to bad color, and they want you to adjust the better quality output machine to match the bad one?

[slimslob]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

Many years ago we had a copier tech named Israel. He went by the nick name of Izzy. He was the primary color tech. He liked to play around with all the Gamma settings, we referred to it as Izzyfying a machine.

You do not want to Izzyfy a machine. It complicates future trouble shooting of CQ problems.

[skinnyb]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

Many years ago we had a copier tech named Israel. He went by the nick name of Izzy. He was the primary color tech. He liked to play around with all the Gamma settings, we referred to it as Izzyfying a machine.

You do not want to Izzyfy a machine. It complicates future trouble shooting of CQ problems.

Absolutely. I have learned this the hard way. The color on these business color machines "is what it is". I have also learned not to even attempt to calibrate the color (user tools, maintenance) unless everything is absolutely PERFECT. Perfect Fuser, pcdu, transfer belt, laser and scanner optics spotless. Even then it is an absolute crap shoot as to how the color reacts afterward. I generally don't EVER calibrate, if the machine is used in parameters of its design, it doesn't need it.

Ironically I had a customer complain exactly as this customer has. They had a MP C2550 and went to a C2503 and the color was so much bolder, they hated it and we ended up swapping in an older reman 3002 to make them happy.

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[TonerMunkeh]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

The basic rule is different engine, different output.

[enricos]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

Does the color change by printing with thick paper rather than with plain paper? I had a similar problem with an MPC3003 that printed faded colors using thick paper, while the same print on a MPC2800 looked better. Sorry for my bad english

[JayPaul]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

I had a similar problem where they had maybe mpc 4500 or something and we put in mpc 3002. The main problem was I did the whole install then he said on the rpcs driver there used to be an option to do something like CAD printing, but the new machine was on pcl 6 driver and didn't have that option. Because of this colour and stuff was out to his designs.
In the end I already knew, different machine so different colours... but luckily we kept the old driver about so I set new printer up as if it were the old machine, same IP address and gave it to old mpc4500 rpcs driver. He did his CAD option and printed a page and hey look at that it was suddenly very similar to what he was used to.
This may not apply to you BUT if you put it on the old driver they use with the 'colour they are used to' you may actually notice a bit of a difference. Now it's not going to come out exactly like they want it but it will be closer to what they want and just enough to make them go 'yeh we can live with this'
Do not staret altering advanced functions, trying to colour match and fiddling with settings on the machine, as already noted in here you will cause eve more problems down the line.
Do not izzyfy a machine

[Oze]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

The most that I'd be doing is changing the driver setting from vector to raster...and that's it.

[Lagonda]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

Had a quick trip in the Wayback machine and found this RTB.
Might help, might not, haven't tried it myself.20190521151542027.pdf

[Zeldaman]

[Tatteous]

Re: MPC4503 color matching to MPC4500

I dont have much hope, but I have a customer with both an old MPC4500 and a newer MPC4503. The color output on the mpc4500 is what they have become used to. The MPC4503 printer much close to what is on the screen. Anyone have any pointer for making the new machines look like an old machine? The main color issues are the grays need to be more brown, and the purples need to be less blue. I have been trying driver tweaks but have not had any luck so far.

If you know how to color balance...

4.19.6 PRINTER GAMMA CORRECTION
􀂃 The ACC is usually sufficient to adjust the color balance to get the best print output. You
only need the printer gamma correction to fine-tune to meet user requirements.
Use SP modes if you want to modify the printer gamma curve created with ACC. You can adjust
the gamma data for the following:
􀂃 Highlight
􀂃 Middle
􀂃 Shadow areas
􀂃 IDmax.
The adjustable range is from 0 to 30 (31 steps).
Copy Mode

Page 4-177 in the Service Manual. If you don't know how a color wheel works, you see adjust color in the user tools. but that will go away once you calibrate.