MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

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  • windcopier
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Apr 2019
    • 51

    MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

    Hi !

    I'm been facing the problem of MPC5503 paper oven roll changed (Paper curve) when print or copy in every morning.

    But after print 20 pages later, it's start back to normal.

    I had change the New Original Fusing unit D1504018 also the same.

    Temperature here are ok. Not cold and also the paper does not moisture because i use MPC4501 or MPC3001 are OK with the print.

    This happen only in A4 size Portrait, but A4 Size Landscape won't happen.

    Any advice on it ?

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  • Zeldaman
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2011
    • 946

    #2
    Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

    Hi there!
    Had this only twice on the 03-series. In both cases the customers were driving cheap paper, also wrong in the cassette (arrow on the paperpackage).
    From RICOH exist 3 modified parts: D1494495 - Tray-assy, D2024466 & 67 exit-rollers. Hope this helps.
    Greetings...

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    • emiliorsg
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • Jul 2018
      • 140

      #3
      Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

      This model is very sensitive to moisture in the paper, so when you make twenty pages it starts to work correctly. I also think that there is also a modification of paper exit rollers to correct the curvature of the paper.

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      • JDYAL
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        • Sep 2008
        • 186

        #4
        Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

        I've had this problem with the machine also. As mentioned I replaced the exit rollers and installed the tray heater and it does help with some curl issues. However as Zeldaman mentioned if you use cheap paper you will still get lots of curl.

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        • windcopier
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Apr 2019
          • 51

          #5
          Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

          Originally posted by Zeldaman
          Hi there!
          Had this only twice on the 03-series. In both cases the customers were driving cheap paper, also wrong in the cassette (arrow on the paperpackage).
          From RICOH exist 3 modified parts: D1494495 - Tray-assy, D2024466 & 67 exit-rollers. Hope this helps.
          Greetings...

          Hi. Thank you for the advice . i will try and see can be work.

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          • windcopier
            Technician

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            • Apr 2019
            • 51

            #6
            Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

            Originally posted by emiliorsg
            This model is very sensitive to moisture in the paper, so when you make twenty pages it starts to work correctly. I also think that there is also a modification of paper exit rollers to correct the curvature of the paper.
            Im try to modify see can be work or not.

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            • windcopier
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Apr 2019
              • 51

              #7
              Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

              Originally posted by JDYAL
              I've had this problem with the machine also. As mentioned I replaced the exit rollers and installed the tray heater and it does help with some curl issues. However as Zeldaman mentioned if you use cheap paper you will still get lots of curl.
              Maybe the exit roller been not change before. i try and see.
              thanks for the assist.

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              • slimslob
                Retired

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                25,000+ Posts
                • May 2013
                • 35059

                #8
                Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                There are 3 things that you can do.
                1. There is a tray heater unit available for this model. Install it to prevent moisture condensation over night.
                2. Purchase a dehumidifier, place it next to the C5503 and run it 24 hrs a day.
                3. Take all the paper out of the machine at night and place it in a moisture proof container.

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                • Coptech
                  worker drone

                  250+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 460

                  #9
                  Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                  As I understand it, paper is produced on a roll. It is moistened, metered for thickness and then rolled. High end paper companies use the outermost parts of the rolls and sell the closer to the core remnants to the discount paper places. When moisture and heat are re-introduced, it tries to take the shape it had when it was on the roll. The amount of curl has more to do with paper than the machine. Some machines are better at minimizing it than others. Those with larger diameter fusing rollers seem to be less susceptible to the curl. This info may or may not help you but it might help you better understand that you are working the wrong side of the solution by tweaking the machine. Take it for what it is worth.

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                  • mikadonovan
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                    • May 2008
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                    #10
                    Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                    The paper is too wet, or too crappy, or is too wet AND too crappy.
                    NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                    • skinnyb
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                      • Jul 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                      Originally posted by mikadonovan
                      The paper is too wet, or too crappy, or is too wet AND too crappy.
                      Probably "Both Boss"

                      Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk

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                      • windcopier
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 51

                        #12
                        Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                        i was thinking maybe increase the tempreture and try see can be work or not.

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                        • davel
                          Technician

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                          • Oct 2011
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                          #13
                          Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                          Does it do it with fresh paper, replace/rebuild fuser, fit tray heaters.

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                          • windcopier
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 51

                            #14
                            Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                            Originally posted by davel
                            Does it do it with fresh paper, replace/rebuild fuser, fit tray heaters.
                            not sure.

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                            • windcopier
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 51

                              #15
                              Re: MPC5503 - Paper oven roll changed (Curve)

                              Hi guys.

                              I had increase 10c for the tempreture and can reduce paper curve.

                              when i print 50 pages in the morning it only come out 2 pages curve and the cruve is not worse then last time.

                              not 100% settle but at least 80%.

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