[Misc] Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

[wisemendistillery]

Long time lurker throughout the years, first time poster!

I have been trying to print on some 100lb linen textured paper. The texture is very light. Everything comes out great using the thick paper 3 setting and the bypass tray, except the colors are very faint. I know this is not a 200k professional printing machine, but I'm wondering if there is a way to put down more toner to make the the blacks blacker and the reds more red and filled in. I have included the professionally printer menu and the one I have printed next to it.

[slimslob]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

You can try Middle thick instead of Thick 3. It sets a higher transfer roller bias current which should transfer more toner from the ITB to the paper.

[guitar9199]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

What's the g/m2 weight on that paper? 100lb SHOULD be about 270 g/m2, but the max weight for the C2051 is only rated for 256 g/m2.

If it's that far out of spec, you're likely not going to get good coverage or decent fusing on that weight of paper.

[wisemendistillery]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

I was reading in the P.O. guide that it could handle up to 120lb. I did order some lighter weight stock, but I will try the thick 2 option as a test. Part of it is the textured paper for sure. Will post results tomorrow.

[slimslob]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

What's the g/m2 weight on that paper? 100lb SHOULD be about 270 g/m2, but the max weight for the C2051 is only rated for 256 g/m2.

If it's that far out of spec, you're likely not going to get good coverage or decent fusing on that weight of paper.

The specification of 256 g/m2, 68 lbs, from tray 1 and bypass is more a matter preventing jamming from paper being to thick to properly make turns. Duplex is limited to 105 g/m2.

I was reading in the P.O. guide that it could handle up to 120lb. I did order some lighter weight stock, but I will try the thick 2 option as a test. Part of it is the textured paper for sure. Will post results tomorrow.

What I recommended was Middle Thick not Thick 2. You might also try changing SP 2652 Thick 3: Bias: FC to adjust the current for the paper transfer roller for thick paper 3 in full color mode. Also try changing paper type setting to Cardstock, Coated Paper or Coated Paper: Gloss.

[wisemendistillery]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

The specification of 256 g/m2, 68 lbs, from tray 1 and bypass is more a matter preventing jamming from paper being to thick to properly make turns. Duplex is limited to 105 g/m2.



What I recommended was Middle Thick not Thick 2. You might also try changing SP 2652 Thick 3: Bias: FC to adjust the current for the paper transfer roller for thick paper 3 in full color mode. Also try changing paper type setting to Cardstock, Coated Paper or Coated Paper: Gloss.

I gotcha, will try today. Thanks!

[wisemendistillery]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

I can find these settings on my Mac (perhaps that is the real issue here). When I select how I want the printout to behave (paper type, bypass tray), the settings don't stick and the printout goes through with the machine defaults. I also noticed the middle thick paper type is not an option natively in the machine itself. Going to try a windows machine now. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

edit: The current PCL version on the machine is 1.05, not sure if that helps or not.

[slimslob]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

I can find these settings on my Mac (perhaps that is the real issue here). When I select how I want the printout to behave (paper type, bypass tray), the settings don't stick and the printout goes through with the machine defaults. I also noticed the middle thick paper type is not an option natively in the machine itself. Going to try a windows machine now. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

edit: The current PCL version on the machine is 1.05, not sure if that helps or not.

In User Tools you have to set set the bypass to Machine/Command instead of Machine Setting.

[Oze]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

I can find these settings on my Mac (perhaps that is the real issue here). When I select how I want the printout to behave (paper type, bypass tray), the settings don't stick and the printout goes through with the machine defaults. I also noticed the middle thick paper type is not an option natively in the machine itself. Going to try a windows machine now. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

edit: The current PCL version on the machine is 1.05, not sure if that helps or not.

Nope..the version of PCL in the machine is irrelevant.
You're printing via Postscript ONLY because you're using a Mac environment so the PS version would be relevant.
Does the copier have a PS kit installed?
Some people may have missed the fact that you're trying to print on Linen...which is a textured stock so require a LOT more experimentation to get it to work.

[tsbservice]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

Not knowing if Ricoh has but on KonMin there is settings in SM for Thick paper density adjustment.
Also what about of current state of consumables, any parts involved in image formation and transfer process like drums, devs, ITB, transfer roller etc
may make worse image.

[FrohnB]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

Like Slim said, if settings aren't being applied when printing, I would go into "user tools" --> "Printer features" --> "system" --> "Tray Priority" -- > and set bypass to "Driver/ Command".

I would also double check the bypass type settings. go into "user tools" --> "System settings" --> "tray paper settings" --> down a page to "bypass paper type" and set for cardstock and Thick 3.

Do you know what the counts are on your Drum and Development units? Have you done a Color Calibration yet? "User tools" --> Maintenance --> Auto Color Calibration (Should be one for copier and 3 or 4 for printer).

[fshead]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

[QUOTE=wisemendistillery;850335]Long time lurker throughout the years, first time poster!

I have been trying to print on some 100lb linen textured paper. The texture is very light. Everything comes out great using the thick paper 3 setting and the bypass tray, except the colors are very faint. I know this is not a 200k professional printing machine, but I'm wondering if there is a way to put down more toner to make the the blacks blacker and the reds more red and filled in. I have included the professionally printer menu and the one I have printed


DID YOU RUN A SAMPLE ON 20LB STOCK TO SEE HOW THAT LOOKS?

[fshead]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

ALSO how does the fuser look?
I actually still use a mpc2030 and outside of the crappy right door plastics I liked this series...
I cant say how well it will do 100lb but i have a few accounts doing heat transfer sheets all the time w/out issues..
maybe you have to find the right media to print on...

[Klydon]

Re: Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Thick Paper 3 color settings

Trying to print on linen paper is pretty much impossible and it doesn't matter what machine you are using.

Check the paper specs of the paper you are using and if it doesn't have something like "laser compatible" on it, then it isn't meant for laser machines. You can ask your paper vendor for a version that is more laser friendly and probably have much better results.

I have had customers try linen before and when it doesn't work, they switch to a more textured paper which usually works much better. The trick is to make sure it says something about being able to be used in laser machines in the paper specs beyond the usual paper weight and size parameters for your machine.