CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

[fshead]

HI I have a few spare type 1013 drum units new that i held on to for the 1013 copiers and the 4430 faxes i serviced.
I dont have those models out anymore but do have the 171 s..
They look a lot the same..
Anyone try this yet?
thanks

[FrohnB]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

It does not work. You either get an SC code, or a "Set PCDU correctly" message.
We haven't heard of any success in converting anything on these to work in the later models, but have also not personally tried. If you discover a way, Let us Know!!

[Phil B.]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

It does not work. You either get an SC code, or a "Set PCDU correctly" message.
We haven't heard of any success in converting anything on these to work in the later models, but have also not personally tried. If you discover a way, Let us Know!!

FrohnB correct a 1013 cannot be used in a 1515 slot.. i have tried... NoGo

[fshead]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

It does not work. You either get an SC code, or a "Set PCDU correctly" message.
We haven't heard of any success in converting anything on these to work in the later models, but have also not personally tried. If you discover a way, Let us Know!!

I hate wasting anything if possible and might split the drum,drum blade out and compare.
I thought i read somewhere you could swap out the TD sensor,but maybe it wasnt this series...
I never had any 1515 and stopped doing the low to mid range ricoh B/W over 5 years ago.........
outside of a few 171s being used as faxes and now a couple of mp301 s reluctantly due to size needs..

[Phil B.]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

I hate wasting anything if possible and might split the drum,drum blade out and compare.
I thought i read somewhere you could swap out the TD sensor,but maybe it wasnt this series...
I never had any 1515 and stopped doing the low to mid range ricoh B/W over 5 years ago.........
outside of a few 171s being used as faxes and now a couple of mp301 s reluctantly due to size needs..

TD sensor cannot be swapped over due to different formulation in toner & dev powder. total different bias's involved.

[slimslob]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

The only thing that might be usable would be internal parts, like drum, blade and charge roller. Might get you by in a pinch while you order in a new PCDU.

[FrohnB]

[Phil B.]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

I got a bunch of used 1013 n 1515 units in my shed. Was going to scrap them for metal.

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[fshead]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

thanks
they are ricoh OEM as I hated KATUN drums and did not have need to check for aftermarkets on the 1013 series.
I guess I can always post on ebay and see what shakes.....
If i am seeing slight drum lines on copies can i tweak the bias and charge voltage to get it work till i shop a new drum?

[Phil B.]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

thanks
they are ricoh OEM as I hated KATUN drums and did not have need to check for aftermarkets on the 1013 series.
I guess I can always post on ebay and see what shakes.....
If i am seeing slight drum lines on copies can i tweak the bias and charge voltage to get it work till i shop a new drum?

Got many 1013 & 1515 all oem used packed back in org box. If interested I'll get counts n pm u

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[fshead]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

Got many 1013 & 1515 all oem used packed back in org box. If interested I'll get counts n pm u

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thanks
I had to get this machine in to swap out a mpc305 wth asking for toner issues which i will not waste time
nor money on..
I split the old drum and split a brand new 1013 drum.
I thought of trying to swap out TD sensor but cant chance it on this account.
The 1013 drum,top half,charge roller and drum blade unit fit perfectly and copies are clean and no lines..
I just finished it now,new UFR,fingers and drum.
Just glad to knock off one headache to not think about in 2020/

[fshead]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

The only thing that might be usable would be internal parts, like drum, blade and charge roller. Might get you by in a pinch while you order in a new PCDU.

you are correct,top half fits whole no need to gut the single parts

[fshead]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

Also I am led to believe the type 1515 developer is type 28..
that is the same for the 1027,2027 and the 1013 series...
I think it would of worked with just ungluing/un taping the TD sensor and swapping them..might even be the
famous wires changed like other units..
I dont deal with these toys much so I WILL pass it along..

[KeviM]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

According to what I know (these are individual parts and not the complete PCU) :

1013 drum should work in 1515, 161, 171, 201, 301(generic works whenever I use it)

Brand new Type 28 developer (from the silver bag it comes in) will work in all of these units (1013,1515,161,171,201) I always use original developer. Use 155grams. Too many problems with generic

TD sensor tends to differ from different models so be careful with those. Do not put a 1013 sensor into a 1515

Cleaning blades are the same for 1013,1515,161,171,201

Developer gears are the same for 1013,1515,161,171,201

Other parts can differ so be careful with those

[8T2]

Re: CAN A type 1013 drum unit be converted to later models?

Rebuilt many 1013 and 1515 PCU's back in the day, top halves are identical and all parts are interchangeable. Used half a Dev28 per PCU. Swapping TD sensor does work. Often did it in the field when gears failed and didn't have the correct one in boot stock. Quicker and cleaner than rebuilding the Dev case on site.

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