Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

[campy]

I am looking sell a customer a back up copier to a Canon IR5055 that does mortgage closings. Will this copier's feeder handle packages of almost 200 mixed letter and legal originals reliably? The scanning is probably over 200K per year. The copying and printing is less than 50K per year. The Ricoh will be used with less than 25K on the counter. I know the larger console Ricohs are probably a better choice but being not that familiar with Ricoh I want to keep it as simple as possible and feel the larger models will probably be too much to learn on the job without some training.
I appreciate any help and opinions. Also are there any Ricoh or Savin techs in the Boston area willing to train me on the mid range copiers. I would of course pay you. My wholesaler seems to always have a abundance of good used Ricoh's and few good Canon's which is my preference.

[mga]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I am looking sell a customer a back up copier to a Canon IR5055 that does mortgage closings. Will this copier's feeder handle packages of almost 200 mixed letter and legal originals reliably? The scanning is probably over 200K per year. The copying and printing is less than 50K per year. The Ricoh will be used with less than 25K on the counter. I know the larger console Ricohs are probably a better choice but being not that familiar with Ricoh I want to keep it as simple as possible and feel the larger models will probably be too much to learn on the job without some training.
I appreciate any help and opinions. Also are there any Ricoh or Savin techs in the Boston area willing to train me on the mid range copiers. I would of course pay you. My wholesaler seems to always have a abundance of good used Ricoh's and few good Canon's which is my preference.

You are best to get a SPDF Df3100 that should handle the job ok

[campy]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

You are best to get a SPDF Df3100 that should handle the job ok

Is that an optional document feeder or a stand alone scanner?

[mga]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

You are best to get a SPDF Df3100 that should handle the job ok

Is that an optional document feeder or a stand alone scanner?

Yes it's optional when buying new. They do two document feeders for this machine one is a raff and the df3100 is single scan feeder

[campy]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I will check to see which one it has. How would either one hold up with heavy scanning?
Thanks for the info.

[sandmanmac]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I'm not sure what the big deal is here
The volume you're talking about just isn't that "Heavy".
Do the math: 200K = 16,600/ month = 800/ day on an average 20 day work month.
I don't have any of those units out, but a quick check in the brochure (which you could easily be reviewing for yourself) indicates the single pass DF is standard on that model.
Europe may be different??
There's a reason that it has a capacity of 220 sheets.

[campy]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I'm not sure what the big deal is here
The volume you're talking about just isn't that "Heavy".
Do the math: 200K = 16,600/ month = 800/ day on an average 20 day work month.
I don't have any of those units out, but a quick check in the brochure (which you could easily be reviewing for yourself) indicates the single pass DF is standard on that model.
Europe may be different??
There's a reason that it has a capacity of 220 sheets.

I know the capacity is there but can it handle it without jamming frequently.

[sandmanmac]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I know the capacity is there but can it handle it without jamming frequently.

Apparently you don't, because you were just advised to add a single pass DF that's actually standard in our country(s).
My apologies for not being more clear.
How is this?
YES!

.....Although reliability does depend heavily on the service, and I'm not that confident in that aspect at this point

[slimslob]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

Just bear in mind that the quality/condition of the documents being scanned will affect whether or not they are going to jam regardless of what make/model MFP you use. Recommended PM duty cycle for the pickup roller, feed belt and reverse roller is 120K. That number is the number of good quality original pages fed, not machine count. If you're looking at 200 page jobs, that is about 600 jobs. Regardless of what the customer uses, be ready to make regular visit to replace feed rubber and clean feeder sensors.

[campy]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

Apparently you don't, because you were just advised to add a single pass DF that's actually standard in our country(s).
My apologies for not being more clear.
How is this?
YES!

.....Although reliability does depend heavily on the service, and I'm not that confident in that aspect at this point

Maybe I wasn't more clear. The copier is a lease return with under 25K on the counter, so what ever feeder it has, that's what I get. The brochure says it's a SPDF that's standard, the suggestion to add it maybe an option in the UK but I don't think it was here in the US, but correct me if I am wrong.

[campy]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

Just bear in mind that the quality/condition of the documents being scanned will affect whether or not they are going to jam regardless of what make/model MFP you use. Recommended PM duty cycle for the pickup roller, feed belt and reverse roller is 120K. That number is the number of good quality original pages fed, not machine count. If you're looking at 200 page jobs, that is about 600 jobs. Regardless of what the customer uses, be ready to make regular visit to replace feed rubber and clean feeder sensors.

They are scanning documents from different sources but I believe most are transmitted electronically and then printed and then scanned as a final package but I'm sure some are in questionable condition. I replace the Canon IR5055 feeder rollers much more often than the usual customer would need them. It sounds like I will have to replace the Ricoh as often if not more than the Canon but that's fine as long as they come out easy and are reasonably priced. I can't find the parts for that model since I believe it's new. Do you have the part numbers for the feeder?

[Brianneoe]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I have a few Mortgage and Law firms who does heavy scanning. For the most part I can't remember any double side originals being used. One of my most reliable SADF\SPDF that is current and supports a modern office is the Color 03 series. Ricoh has a ADF count in SP8191 that will give you the total page count on the ADF. There are too many problems on the newer ADF from double feeding to ripping originals. This goes for the whole line except the Pro series. The Color 03 and 02 ADF's are reliable and easy to repair. If you need to go with a b|w unit look at the Ricoh 6001 console or the 5002 series unit.

BTW, don't let the fact that its a color machine dissuade you from checking it out as a solution. I know techs who sell and service these unit because they are very easy to maintain.

Good luck

[slimslob]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

One of my most reliable SADF\SPDF that is current and supports a modern office is the Color 03 series.

Other than the feed belts fraying.

[skinnyb]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

Other than the feed belts fraying.

True that. I use the old belt to solve that problem (A8061295). Those new belts are terrible.

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[campy]

Re: Ricoh 4055 for heavy scanning?

I have a few Mortgage and Law firms who does heavy scanning. For the most part I can't remember any double side originals being used. One of my most reliable SADF\SPDF that is current and supports a modern office is the Color 03 series. Ricoh has a ADF count in SP8191 that will give you the total page count on the ADF. There are too many problems on the newer ADF from double feeding to ripping originals. This goes for the whole line except the Pro series. The Color 03 and 02 ADF's are reliable and easy to repair. If you need to go with a b|w unit look at the Ricoh 6001 console or the 5002 series unit.

BTW, don't let the fact that its a color machine dissuade you from checking it out as a solution. I know techs who sell and service these unit because they are very easy to maintain.

Good luck

The color models you mention is that the MP C4503/5503? The Ricoh console models are not really an option for me since the learning curve is probably greater than the mid range models and with this customer I can't afford to have downtime due to my lack of knowledge and support.
Thanks for the useful information on the problems with the newer models.