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  • Johnysg11988
    Technician
    • Feb 2019
    • 14

    [Misc] Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

    Hi

    I have MPC 4503 series with SR 3140 that do not stack evenly.
    Large sets are printed and finished with a staple, it happens quite often that the paper is fed out of line, it sticks out for an inch and so its not stapled.
    even swopped the complete finisher 2 times !!
    The firmware of machine and finisher is up to date.
    Did many adjustments, SP6143, SP6150 and SP6152 etc but problem not solved.

    See the attachment.If you see the jogger not work correct.

    Any suggestions??

    IMG_0064.MOV.zip
  • Mr Magic
    Technician
    • Jan 2020
    • 29

    #2
    Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

    Originally posted by Johnysg11988
    Hi

    I have MPC 4503 series with SR 3140 that do not stack evenly.
    Large sets are printed and finished with a staple, it happens quite often that the paper is fed out of line, it sticks out for an inch and so its not stapled.
    even swopped the complete finisher 2 times !!
    The firmware of machine and finisher is up to date.
    Did many adjustments, SP6143, SP6150 and SP6152 etc but problem not solved.

    See the attachment.If you see the jogger not work correct.

    Any suggestions??

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]46215[/ATTACH]
    Hey buddy,

    Order:
    2 x Reverse Rollers &
    1 x Gathering Roller

    (whilst replacing the rollers - don't forget to clean the sensors)

    All the best

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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 35067

      #3
      Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

      Originally posted by pythonas
      Hi, the guy Just told you that he replaced allready another 2 finisher and has the same problem, so for what the perpose of replacing any parts at the finisher?
      Considering the age of a MP C4503, the specified rollers on all his finishers need replacement. Or if the other 2 have been setting in storage they might get by with a thorough cleaning but the rollers will need replacing eventually. Maybe by replacing everything with a newer equipment from a competitor.

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      • Mr Magic
        Technician
        • Jan 2020
        • 29

        #4
        Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

        Originally posted by pythonas
        Hi, the guy Just told you that he replaced allready another 2 finisher and has the same problem, so for what the perpose of replacing any parts at the finisher?

        LOL.....Apologies!! Let me go and hang my head in shame in a darkened room! ( I clearly didn't see that!!) Ha ha ha...

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        • Johnysg11988
          Technician
          • Feb 2019
          • 14

          #5
          Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

          Is not problem of the finisher.because i placed the first and second finisher on onother mpc4503 and work perfect...
          Mayby is the machine problem or machine setting?

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          • slimslob
            Retired

            Site Contributor
            25,000+ Posts
            • May 2013
            • 35067

            #6
            Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

            Originally posted by Johnysg11988
            Is not problem of the finisher.because i placed the first and second finisher on onother mpc4503 and work perfect...
            Mayby is the machine problem or machine setting?
            Does not mean anything other than you are either too lazy, too cheap or both to order new parts. Gathering into the stapler is dependent on the finisher only.

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            • mga
              Copier Technician

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Dec 2010
              • 1393

              #7
              Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

              Originally posted by Mr Magic
              Hey buddy,

              Order:
              2 x Reverse Rollers &
              1 x Gathering Roller

              (whilst replacing the rollers - don't forget to clean the sensors)

              All the best
              +1 the problem is the finisher just one other thing check the paper cassette side guides are in correct place
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              • tonerhead
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Sep 2009
                • 580

                #8
                Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

                Since the first and second finisher work perfect on another 4503, it has to be the 4503 with the complaint that is the issue. I had similar once. It turned out to be environmental. The machine with the issue was in a damper area. We put in tray anticondensation heaters and the problem went away. I think the finishers are not the star performers of Ricohland. We also had similar, brought in another paper brand, no problems. As was mentioned replacing those stupid rollers helps in a lot of cases. Try some different paper to see if it helps. Take some humidity readings in the area.
                I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


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                • Mr Magic
                  Technician
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 29

                  #9
                  Re: Mpc 4503 with finisher SR3140

                  Originally posted by tonerhead
                  Since the first and second finisher work perfect on another 4503, it has to be the 4503 with the complaint that is the issue. I had similar once. It turned out to be environmental. The machine with the issue was in a damper area. We put in tray anticondensation heaters and the problem went away. I think the finishers are not the star performers of Ricohland. We also had similar, brought in another paper brand, no problems. As was mentioned replacing those stupid rollers helps in a lot of cases. Try some different paper to see if it helps. Take some humidity readings in the area.

                  Ok. I hear you. Let's take it right back to basics! Try again with a fresh ream of paper, but this time - clean all paper paths sensors and try it from the bypass tray. Someone mentioned checking the paper guides too - that's a good call.

                  Oh, also check the sensor at the lip of the finisher - just in case! (But you said you tried another Finisher! Agghh!!) Lol

                  Ok ok.....let's go with the print media and sensors! Lol

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