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  • fritz.net
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2018
    • 9

    DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

    Hello, I'm trying to set IP address and other settings of an DSC428. Here the printer interface wants me to login since otherwise these operations are denied.


    So I tried login as admin/admin or admin/blank and also supervisor/blank and administrator/blank and other variations. The supervisor login works (on the machine and also the webinterface). However after saving the new admin passwort the changes seem to not take effect (I did not miss the second apply button).


    I also tried to reset the addressbook which was not working vie SP-Mode.


    I dumped the NV ram the find out the passwords like in ( Lost supervisor password? ) however I don't want to risk damaging anything so I have not tried loading a reseted NV file back into the printer.

    The administrator seems to have an empty password (which is not working). And the format seems to not exactly match (not 4 byte between "marker" and username).
    ScreenshotDump.jpg

    I also tried decoding the admin password (which was also not working)

    I would appreciate any tips how to gain access back, thanks for your attention.
  • DRichard
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • May 2008
    • 482

    #2
    Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

    Originally posted by fritz.net
    Hello, I'm trying to set IP address and other settings of an DSC428. Here the printer interface wants me to login since otherwise these operations are denied.


    So I tried login as admin/admin or admin/blank and also supervisor/blank and administrator/blank and other variations. The supervisor login works (on the machine and also the webinterface). However after saving the new admin passwort the changes seem to not take effect (I did not miss the second apply button).


    I also tried to reset the addressbook which was not working vie SP-Mode.


    I dumped the NV ram the find out the passwords like in ( Lost supervisor password? ) however I don't want to risk damaging anything so I have not tried loading a reseted NV file back into the printer.

    The administrator seems to have an empty password (which is not working). And the format seems to not exactly match (not 4 byte between "marker" and username).
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]46910[/ATTACH]

    I also tried decoding the admin password (which was also not working)



    I would appreciate any tips how to gain access back, thanks for your attention.
    Have you ried the Factory Service Mode (the one you use if you need to reenter the machine's ser#)? If you can get there, try using SP5-846-046.
    "Enjoy every sandwich."

    -- Warren Zevon

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    • slimslob
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      • May 2013
      • 35064

      #3
      Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

      Originally posted by fritz.net
      Hello, I'm trying to set IP address and other settings of an DSC428. Here the printer interface wants me to login since otherwise these operations are denied.


      So I tried login as admin/admin or admin/blank and also supervisor/blank and administrator/blank and other variations. The supervisor login works (on the machine and also the webinterface). However after saving the new admin passwort the changes seem to not take effect (I did not miss the second apply button).


      I also tried to reset the addressbook which was not working vie SP-Mode.


      I dumped the NV ram the find out the passwords like in ( Lost supervisor password? ) however I don't want to risk damaging anything so I have not tried loading a reseted NV file back into the printer.

      The administrator seems to have an empty password (which is not working). And the format seems to not exactly match (not 4 byte between "marker" and username).
      [ATTACH=CONFIG]46910[/ATTACH]

      I also tried decoding the admin password (which was also not working)



      I would appreciate any tips how to gain access back, thanks for your attention.
      My experience has been that the procedure in that thread only works with older B/W models.

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      • fritz.net
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2018
        • 9

        #4
        Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

        Originally posted by DRichard
        Have you ried the Factory Service Mode (the one you use if you need to reenter the machine's ser#)? If you can get there, try using SP5-846-046.
        Thanks for your reply.
        I've read about the factory Service mode, but did not find how to access it (only the hint to search for it - but i only found the "classic" SP Mode). When i go to SP5-846 i miss the numbers between 10 and 47 so there is no 46.

        Originally posted by slimslob
        My experience has been that the procedure in that thread only works with older B/W models.
        Thanks for your information. Sounds like bad news

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        • DRichard
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • May 2008
          • 482

          #5
          Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

          Originally posted by fritz.net
          Thanks for your reply.
          I've read about the factory Service mode, but did not find how to access it (only the hint to search for it - but i only found the "classic" SP Mode). When i go to SP5-846 i miss the numbers between 10 and 47 so there is no 46.


          Thanks for your information. Sounds like bad news
          How to access this version of service mode has been posted elsewhere on this site (by others who weren't very concerned about making it public). It works fine on all current models of Ricoh MFPs.
          "Enjoy every sandwich."

          -- Warren Zevon

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          • skynetto
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            250+ Posts
            • Sep 2012
            • 257

            #6
            Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

            Originally posted by fritz.net
            Thanks for your reply.
            I've read about the factory Service mode, but did not find how to access it (only the hint to search for it - but i only found the "classic" SP Mode). When i go to SP5-846 i miss the numbers between 10 and 47 so there is no 46.


            Thanks for your information. Sounds like bad news

            Can you send me the dump of NVRAM?
            I may be able to decrypt those passwords

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            • bmwmick
              Technician
              • Jul 2019
              • 27

              #7
              DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

              That service mode will reset all the data back to factory
              And delete the address book


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              • sandmanmac
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                2,500+ Posts
                • Feb 2009
                • 3947

                #8
                Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

                Originally posted by bmwmick
                That service mode will reset all the data back to factory
                And delete the address book
                Incorrect.
                SP5-846-046 ONLY resets Supervisor credentials and address book.
                I run it with every single machine that I re-sell

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                • DRichard
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 482

                  #9
                  Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

                  Originally posted by sandmanmac
                  Incorrect.
                  SP5-846-046 ONLY resets Supervisor credentials and address book.
                  I run it with every single machine that I re-sell
                  This is correct. After performing this particular mode, you are prompted to power the machine off/on. At next power on you will see the screen prompting you to enter new passwords. you will also find Addressbook Data has been deleted. I know of no other data loss.
                  "Enjoy every sandwich."

                  -- Warren Zevon

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                  • sandmanmac
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3947

                    #10
                    Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

                    Originally posted by DRichard
                    This is correct. After performing this particular mode, you are prompted to power the machine off/on. At next power on you will see the screen prompting you to enter new passwords. you will also find Addressbook Data has been deleted. I know of no other data loss.
                    I must admit, that I just cross-referenced this model to Ricoh to find out exactly what the discussion was about.
                    I didn't realize that we were travelling all the way back in time to an Aficio 3228C!
                    In the end, I'm fairly sure this process, and some others, don't apply to a model that old

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                    • DRichard
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                      250+ Posts
                      • May 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

                      Originally posted by sandmanmac
                      I must admit, that I just cross-referenced this model to Ricoh to find out exactly what the discussion was about.
                      I didn't realize that we were travelling all the way back in time to an Aficio 3228C!
                      In the end, I'm fairly sure this process, and some others, don't apply to a model that old
                      Thank You! It didn't even cross my mind that we were talking about a model this old! I revise my response...Here. take my two cents worth of advice and put it toward the purchase of some gasoline and a book of matches.
                      "Enjoy every sandwich."

                      -- Warren Zevon

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                      • kplow1986
                        Technician
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 41

                        #12
                        Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

                        Originally posted by fritz.net
                        Hello, I'm trying to set IP address and other settings of an DSC428. Here the printer interface wants me to login since otherwise these operations are denied.


                        So I tried login as admin/admin or admin/blank and also supervisor/blank and administrator/blank and other variations. The supervisor login works (on the machine and also the webinterface). However after saving the new admin passwort the changes seem to not take effect (I did not miss the second apply button).


                        I also tried to reset the addressbook which was not working vie SP-Mode.


                        I dumped the NV ram the find out the passwords like in ( Lost supervisor password? ) however I don't want to risk damaging anything so I have not tried loading a reseted NV file back into the printer.

                        The administrator seems to have an empty password (which is not working). And the format seems to not exactly match (not 4 byte between "marker" and username).
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]46910[/ATTACH]

                        I also tried decoding the admin password (which was also not working)



                        I would appreciate any tips how to gain access back, thanks for your attention.
                        goto special mode SP5-846 -047 maybe 046

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                        • slimslob
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                          • May 2013
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                          #13
                          Re: DSC428 admin/supervisor passwords not working

                          Originally posted by kplow1986
                          goto special mode SP5-846 -047 maybe 046
                          Try Factory SP mode. You will have to contact Ricoh support to learn how.

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