Ricoh 4MB A2309350 vs N8036701B (AMC C/D Compatible Linear Flash) difference?

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  • monarke4
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    Ricoh 4MB A2309350 vs N8036701B (AMC C/D Compatible Linear Flash) difference?

    Does anyone know the difference between these two cards besides the part number?

    From some extra reading on line I suspect the Ricoh P/N A2309350 is an AMC C Series compatible Linear Flash card which only came in storage capacities of 1, 2, and 4 Megabyte.

    Whereas the Ricoh P/N N8036701B may actually be an AMD D Series compatible Linear Flash card which are still available in storage capacities of
    4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32 Megabyte from a few manufacturers.

    Does this seem to make sense?

    Last edited by monarke4; 09-01-2022, 11:08 AM. Reason: grammatical, addition
  • slimslob
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    Re: Ricoh 4MB A2309350 vs N8036701B (AMC C/D Compatible Linear Flash) difference?

    Regardless of flash card size, Ricoh firmware updates were limited to 4 MB. When they got to where it took more than 4MB you had to use 2 cards and load the in the proper order.

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    • monarke4
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      Re: Ricoh 4MB A2309350 vs N8036701B (AMC C/D Compatible Linear Flash) difference?

      The 4mb limit I do understand.

      Now I believe that I may had made a mistake in my suggestion that there might be two different version of the Linear Flash Cards Ricoh used.

      The N8036701B card has two paper adhesive labels. One I believe is for the Serial Number, and the other is the Part Number.

      Curiously the A cards have a what appear to be a lot numbers printed on the long side of the cards (8566-10 0111). The last 8 numerals vary from card to card. The N8036701B I have here has no lot number printed on it anywhere.

      I wonder if Ricoh was writing their own ID/signature data to the later cards.

      I realize now this is for most purposes obsolete technology.

      A couple musical manufacturers I service product for still use PCMCIA cards. One of them still uses the Mitsubishi Melcard for a legacy product. The other used Seiko-Epson OTProm cards, of which I have a small bundle.

      Tossing some additional thoughts out there.

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      • slimslob
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        Re: Ricoh 4MB A2309350 vs N8036701B (AMC C/D Compatible Linear Flash) difference?

        Originally posted by monarke4
        The 4mb limit I do understand.

        Now I believe that I may had made a mistake in my suggestion that there might be two different version of the Linear Flash Cards Ricoh used.

        The N8036701B card has two paper adhesive labels. One I believe is for the Serial Number, and the other is the Part Number.

        Curiously the A cards have a what appear to be a lot numbers printed on the long side of the cards (8566-10 0111). The last 8 numerals vary from card to card. The N8036701B I have here has no lot number printed on it anywhere.

        I wonder if Ricoh was writing their own ID/signature data to the later cards.

        I realize now this is for most purposes obsolete technology.

        A couple musical manufacturers I service product for still use PCMCIA cards. One of them still uses the Mitsubishi Melcard for a legacy product. The other used Seiko-Epson OTProm cards, of which I have a small bundle.

        Tossing some additional thoughts out there.
        Most laptop computers don't even have PCMCIA-II slots let alone PCMCIA-I. And try to find a multi slot USB adapter that supports them.

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        • monarke4
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          Re: Ricoh 4MB A2309350 vs N8036701B (AMC C/D Compatible Linear Flash) difference?

          Originally posted by slimslob
          Most laptop computers don't even have PCMCIA-II slots let alone PCMCIA-I. And try to find a multi slot USB adapter that supports them.

          Actually they are, but I didn't say they were necessarily *cheap*.

          While they last, from Syncrotech NOS Elan P423 Dual Slot PCMCIA Read/Writers (It handles Linear Flash, ATA, SRAM):

          PCI Bus to PC Card Read-Writers 2 Slot Internal P423 | eBay

          Also USB type available new from Syncrotech, includes software:

          Both will Read/Write Linear Flash, ATA Flash, SRAM, and a bunch more.

          (Single Slot PCMCIA Card Slot)
          USB 2.0 to PC Card Read-Writer 1-Slot for ATA Flash + SRAM + Linear Flash (OMNIDriveUSB2 LF) (ART0020711), Synchrotech

          (PCMCIA & SD Card Slots)

          USB 2.0 to PC Card Read-Writer 2-Slot for SD Card, ATA Flash, SRAM, Linear Flash, Synchrotech

          The drivers for the Elan P423 is available on Syncrotech's website for downloading as well.

          I purchased a NOS Elan P423 via eBay over a year ago.

          I have no financial connection with Syncrotech or their products. I have though spent some time scouring the information on their website, looking for answers.

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