The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

[Jomama46]

The new ones are the same as the CSP versions of the old ones!

CSP version?

[ucinn]

Do you do this to all MP 4000's. When setting up new machines you change the toner motor, are there any settings you change, does it last
160k? Any side effects?

We do them to all our machines, but not Ricoh national accounts. We change the toner motor, the ones for the ld245 are different drive, and use the b0799640 developer instead of the b2969640. It works great and 160k is no problem now. A lot better than the 40-80 you get out of the LD345, LD040's. But you must use the LD245 toner instead of the LD345 toner.

[DH1980]

We do them to all our machines, but not Ricoh national accounts. We change the toner motor, the ones for the ld245 are different drive, and use the b0799640 developer instead of the b2969640. It works great and 160k is no problem now. A lot better than the 40-80 you get out of the LD345, LD040's. But you must use the LD245 toner instead of the LD345 toner.

Thank you
There is still hope for this box.

[TonerMunkeh]

CSP version?

Copy Scan Print version. I think it means it comes with these options as standard.

[Jomama46]

Got it, thanks

[Shadow1]

The MP4000b was the "basic" version - no scan or print standard. You could add them later, but the "b" machine also has a B/W CCD - the standard version had a color CCD for color scan. While you can add scan to a b machine you can't upgrade the scanner - its B/W only.

[df3036]

Have you changed a web on one of these???

I don't work on Panasonic, but I can't imagine they are much worse.

I put the snakeskin oil roller in all my machines like df3036 posted back at the beginning of this thread - works great, takes 2 minutes to change

We have been changing all the MP4000/5000 and SP8200dn to the oil roller with no ill effect. Have yet to change any hot rollers/fusers. 300k+.....
The only problem I have had is the one way bearing ceasing. Been putting some high temp grease in the latest ones. If anyone finds a bushing that fits let me know.

[Shadow1]

Grease helps a lot, but what finally got it for me was to clip the springs so they are just barely long enough to hold it together when the web assy is off, and it greatly reduces the tension when assembled - there was so much tension on the bushing it was getting cocked and binding the roller. Much lighter springs would be better, but I don't have any offhand

[df3036]

Grease helps a lot, but what finally got it for me was to clip the springs so they are just barely long enough to hold it together when the web assy is off, and it greatly reduces the tension when assembled - there was so much tension on the bushing it was getting cocked and binding the roller. Much lighter springs would be better, but I don't have any offhand

Cool, will give that a try....

[E Winter]

We do them to all our machines, but not Ricoh national accounts. We change the toner motor, the ones for the ld245 are different drive, and use the b0799640 developer instead of the b2969640. It works great and 160k is no problem now. A lot better than the 40-80 you get out of the LD345, LD040's. But you must use the LD245 toner instead of the LD345 toner.

Interesting - how many machines have you modified so far and how many of them reached the 160k target?

[ucinn]

Interesting - how many machines have you modified so far and how many of them reached the 160k target?

We have done all but 5 of our machines, but none of the Ricoh national accounts because they have to get their supplies through Ricoh so we can't control what toner they are sent. The 5 of ours we haven't done we are using as test machines doing all the Ricoh updates, which as you all know, haven't helped much. A couple of the others we have tried an aftermarket toner on them using the same b296 developer and they seem to be working better, but we just started this so no usable results yet. Basically what we are doing is turning these newer machines into older ld245's.. which I think is the 2045 Ricoh I think. So, we are getting the same reults as we did with the LD245's.

[DH1980]

Are you going to use the B079 developer in the new MP4001 machines?
I am told they use the B296 developer.

[Mad_Coachman]

Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

Can someone please post the original "bulletin" on this as I want to share this with my fellow techs.It was titled "This is NOT an official Ricoh Tech Bulletin...but it should be"

[df3036]

Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ricoh-savin-gestetner/33509-ricoh-field-tech-bulletins.html

Here you go...

[Mad_Coachman]

Re: Going to try this

Where is the original post?...It says This is NOT an official Ricoh Tech Bulletin...but it should be.

Haven't installed yet but....

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Using AE040051 oil roller from Aficio 1055/ FT7900 series.
Have to end for end the one way bearing on the oil roller. Even if it does not last as long, it is way easier to change.

Any thoughts?
Dave