The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

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  • BLADE
    former propeller tester

    250+ Posts
    • Dec 2009
    • 478

    #91
    Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

    ive been using the printer kit pcdu for years, they go over life easily and a couple did over 250k. remove the web unit and you've got a really good box

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    • Mad_Coachman
      Technician

      Site Contributor
      50+ Posts
      • Jan 2009
      • 99

      #92
      Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

      Originally posted by BLADE
      ive been using the printer kit pcdu for years, they go over life easily and a couple did over 250k. remove the web unit and you've got a really good box
      What is the part number for the printer kit or at least give me the product code for the printer and I'll look it up myself? Thanks!!

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      • BLADE
        former propeller tester

        250+ Posts
        • Dec 2009
        • 478

        #93
        Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

        Originally posted by Mad_Coachman
        What is the part number for the printer kit or at least give me the product code for the printer and I'll look it up myself? Thanks!!
        402960 from memory. probably a good idea to do half a dozen blank copies to stir the dev through before doing the setup sp's

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        • Shadow1
          Service Manager

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          1,000+ Posts
          • Sep 2008
          • 1642

          #94
          Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

          Originally posted by BLADE
          ive been using the printer kit pcdu for years, they go over life easily and a couple did over 250k. remove the web unit and you've got a really good box
          Not with OEM toner they don't, and being a RAC (factory) tech we don't have the option of using toner that works. Ricoh has never acknowledged there is a problem with any machine using B296 developer/OEM toner.
          73 DE W5SSJ

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          • Stevo123

            #95
            Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

            Originally posted by unisys12
            One question on this though... What will actually clean the hot roller? Usually there's a cleaning roller located behind the oil roller that collects trash off the oil roller. Without that, would that trash do one of two things; 1) be reapplied to the hot roller, or 2) become adhered to the oil roller, which in turn blocks the oil on that area.

            I'm not knocking the mod, by no means. I think anything is better than that mad gab garble of crap on the machine now. I mean, even worse case scenario, why couldn't they have at least carried over the web assembly from the B246? Sure it's wider, but how much money do you think was spent designing the unit on this machine now and compare that to how much it would have cost to hold the B246 unit up to the D009 fuser and say, "Ok fellas! Shrink it down this much!"


            Sorry... I just had a Charlie Brown moment.
            You are correct Unisys. Almost every machine I have seen this mod on has flat spotted the oil roller resulting in a build up of toner that will eventually trash the hot roller. You're better off just learning to be efficient in replacing the web.

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            • Richariri
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Dec 2013
              • 163

              #96
              Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

              has anyone got the part numbers for the bushing and one way bearing that you use with the oil roller mod?

              I am hoping to test this mod soon as I don't know how cost effective it will really be.
              I don't want to have to rebuild the fuser when I could of just used the cleaning web with a shorter web motor rotation time.

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              • Mad_Coachman
                Technician

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                50+ Posts
                • Jan 2009
                • 99

                #97
                Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

                Originally posted by Richariri
                has anyone got the part numbers for the bushing and one way bearing that you use with the oil roller mod?

                I am hoping to test this mod soon as I don't know how cost effective it will really be.
                I don't want to have to rebuild the fuser when I could of just used the cleaning web with a shorter web motor rotation time.
                Just follow the mod instructions and use AE040068 or 62 as the original roller AE040051 is no longer available. I have units in the field with a million copies and the fuser roll is still good.

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                • Shadow1
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1642

                  #98
                  Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

                  Originally posted by Stevo123
                  You are correct Unisys. Almost every machine I have seen this mod on has flat spotted the oil roller resulting in a build up of toner that will eventually trash the hot roller. You're better off just learning to be efficient in replacing the web.
                  Replace or cut the springs as per the mod.
                  73 DE W5SSJ

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                  • BLADE
                    former propeller tester

                    250+ Posts
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 478

                    #99
                    Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

                    Originally posted by Mad_Coachman
                    Just follow the mod instructions and use AE040068 or 62 as the original roller AE040051 is no longer available. I have units in the field with a million copies and the fuser roll is still good.
                    probably never had a fuser jam or error as well

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                    • Mad_Coachman
                      Technician

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                      50+ Posts
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 99

                      #100
                      Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

                      Originally posted by BLADE
                      probably never had a fuser jam or error as well
                      Actually no fuser jams or errors as a result of this mod....wiseguy

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                      • Mad_Coachman
                        Technician

                        Site Contributor
                        50+ Posts
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 99

                        #101
                        Re: The Much Maligned MP4000/5000

                        Originally posted by BLADE
                        402960 from memory. probably a good idea to do half a dozen blank copies to stir the dev through before doing the setup sp's
                        I just looked up that number and it is NOT cost effective. It is the drum unit and dev unit.

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