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  • cmpelser
    Trusted Tech
    • Jan 2008
    • 173

    #1

    Mac printing problem.

    I've got a customer with a mpc2500 and he wants to print on a3 paper from the bypass tray. All the other workstations -windows xp- are doing it, just not the mac. Now i don't really work on mac's so i don't even know what the driver looks like.
    Any help?
  • category_five
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 93

    #2
    Originally posted by cmpelser
    I've got a customer with a mpc2500 and he wants to print on a3 paper from the bypass tray. All the other workstations -windows xp- are doing it, just not the mac. Now i don't really work on mac's so i don't even know what the driver looks like.
    Any help?

    Your customer needs a post script option to print to a Ricoh MFP from a Mac. You can check if this is installed by doing an interface settings print out or just look for the Post Script Sticker on the front of the machine. It's not standard on the machine so if they didn't specifically request it when they purchased the machine they probably don't have it.


    I hesitate to mention it (and you should hesitate to mention it to your customer) but if your customer has a competent mac computer technician, the tech can configure Gutenprint/Gimp Print to print without a post script option. Gutenprint doesn't support all Ricoh models and the results aren't as good as the Ricoh post script driver. This is a potential support nightmare though.

    The safest way to go is to just say no to mac printing without a post script option.
    Information is intended for certified service personnel only. Your mileage may vary, see dealer for details.

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    • KenB
      Geek Extraordinaire

      2,500+ Posts
      • Dec 2007
      • 3945

      #3
      Are the Macs printing at all?

      If so, then the PostScript option is most likely installed, and they can't pull A3 through the bypass for some reason.

      First things first, though. Without the PostScript option, not much of anything will happen

      As CategoryFive mentioned, you're inviting a world of hurt by using the Guenburg / Gimp drivers. Been there, done that...ain't doin' it again...
      “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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      • Llama God
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Mar 2009
        • 1353

        #4
        I'm not knocking Cat5 here, especially as I have not got an answer myself, but if the machine prints from the main paper cassettes but not the bypass then it must have the PS option installed. Does it print from the other trays from the Mac?

        As I said though, I have no idea why the Mac cannot print from the bypass and I don't have a Mac to try it on myself. Sorry for being utterly useless!

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        • category_five
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Feb 2009
          • 93

          #5
          Originally posted by Llama God
          I'm not knocking Cat5 here, especially as I have not got an answer myself, but if the machine prints from the main paper cassettes but not the bypass then it must have the PS option installed. Does it print from the other trays from the Mac?

          As I said though, I have no idea why the Mac cannot print from the bypass and I don't have a Mac to try it on myself. Sorry for being utterly useless!
          The first step on a mac printing call is to check for the post script option. There are many ways to print from a mac without a post script option, none of which a sane tech should touch with a ten foot pole.
          Information is intended for certified service personnel only. Your mileage may vary, see dealer for details.

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          • Llama God
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2009
            • 1353

            #6
            Originally posted by category_five
            The first step on a mac printing call is to check for the post script option. There are many ways to print from a mac without a post script option, none of which a sane tech should touch with a ten foot pole.
            I agree, but surely using some half-arsed workaround would be the most likely cause of the issue in the first place and not mentioning that in the original description of the fault would not make it easy to advise.

            It might also be worth asking the customer to stop being pretentious and just use a PC like almost everybody else! I'm jesting of course...

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            • sdrawkcab
              Confused & Bewildered

              250+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 317

              #7
              Most Mac printing problems i come across are because the generic driver is loaded instead of the correct PPD, the generic driver only has basic settings, so probably doesn't have A3
              Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints

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              • category_five
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Feb 2009
                • 93

                #8
                Originally posted by sdrawkcab
                Most Mac printing problems i come across are because the generic driver is loaded instead of the correct PPD, the generic driver only has basic settings, so probably doesn't have A3
                Information is intended for certified service personnel only. Your mileage may vary, see dealer for details.

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                • category_five
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 93

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Llama God
                  It might also be worth asking the customer to stop being pretentious and just use a PC like almost everybody else! I'm jesting of course...
                  So true.
                  Information is intended for certified service personnel only. Your mileage may vary, see dealer for details.

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                  • Llama God
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1353

                    #10
                    That, Cat5, is absolutely awesome!

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                    • category_five
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 93

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Llama God
                      That, Cat5, is absolutely awesome!
                      Thank you
                      Information is intended for certified service personnel only. Your mileage may vary, see dealer for details.

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                      • KenB
                        Geek Extraordinaire

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3945

                        #12
                        Provided the PostScript option IS present and there are printing issues, an old trick is to use the Windows 2000 / XP ppd file. (If they exist separately, use the Windows 2000 one.)

                        A ppd file isn't platform specific. A ppd should work on a PC, Mac, Linux or UNIX computer. There are some very minor differences, however.

                        A few years ago this was a VERY common fix for the Canon iR C3200 C1 RIP. The Macs struggled mightily with the Mac ppd, (especially in tray selection) but the Windows 2000 ppd work like a champ. Of course, when we called and asked Canon about it, they were pretty much clueless.

                        BTW...What version of the Mac OS is the customer running? The older versions (10.0, 10.1, 10.2) had tons of printing issues.

                        You will note that OS 9 and older aren't supported anymore.
                        “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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                        • cmpelser
                          Trusted Tech
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 173

                          #13
                          Sorry guys, the customer has got ps3 installed!
                          and they print fine on a4 paper
                          tray1 is a4 lef
                          tray2 is a4 sef
                          and the bypass tray has a3

                          They need to print a3, and they don't know how.
                          the xp workstations are no problem.
                          just the mac's

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                          • category_five
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 93

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cmpelser
                            Sorry guys, the customer has got ps3 installed!
                            and they print fine on a4 paper
                            tray1 is a4 lef
                            tray2 is a4 sef
                            and the bypass tray has a3

                            They need to print a3, and they don't know how.
                            the xp workstations are no problem.
                            just the mac's

                            sdrawkcab
                            already gave you the fix. Here it is again with the most relevant portion underlined:


                            Originally posted by sdrawkcab
                            Most Mac printing problems i come across are because the generic driver is loaded instead of the correct PPD, the generic driver only has basic settings, so probably doesn't have A3


                            If I just kept babbling for a few more posts I'm almost positive I would have come up with it. It basically just boils down to download and install the PPD from Ricoh.com. If you're unsure how to reinstall a driver on OSX, google is your friend.
                            Information is intended for certified service personnel only. Your mileage may vary, see dealer for details.

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