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  • aswelem
    Technician
    • Jun 2009
    • 16

    #1

    ricoh 2090 counter reset

    hi all
    can any one help me to reset a ricoh 2090 counter ,that i'm sealling used copier and

    Government accountable to the people meter is located in the machine, rather than hold them accountable to the actual counter
    may any onr help me
    Abdelrhmn Adel
  • Shadow1
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Sep 2008
    • 1642

    #2
    You're not going to get any takers on this. Its illegal in every country I know of, aside from being unethical. The meter is what it is, and resetting it is like rolling back the odometer in a car.
    73 DE W5SSJ

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    • aswelem
      Technician
      • Jun 2009
      • 16

      #3
      Thank you for your response speed

      Thank you for your response speed
      But happened to me before he became the counter 00000000 during the maintenance process
      With regard to the legitimacy of the subject of whether the issue is legitimate and will be at the request of the client itself

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      • Shadow1
        Service Manager

        Site Contributor
        1,000+ Posts
        • Sep 2008
        • 1642

        #4
        If you're talking about the PM counter, it sounds like its already reset.

        If you're talking about the Total counter, it doesn't matter who requests the reset its still illegal.
        73 DE W5SSJ

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        • aswelem
          Technician
          • Jun 2009
          • 16

          #5
          I'm talking about the total counter not PM counter
          So can you help
          And I said to you that a legitimate
          Because it is based on customer request

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          • zed255
            How'd ya manage that?

            1,000+ Posts
            • Dec 2009
            • 1024

            #6
            There is no way that I'm aware of through SP to reset the total counter. There is a method that requires the replacement of a certain part (aside from the obvious mechanical meter), but if you're unaware of that method I'll not describe it further. In any event it would need to be carried out by a certified service technician. I'm still not clear why the client would want the meter reset anyhow. If I were buying a used machine I'd want an accurate indicator as to how many copies / prints my machine has made.

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            • aswelem
              Technician
              • Jun 2009
              • 16

              #7
              First, Thank you for your reply
              Secondly, in my country there are some technocracy, who are in the process
              III site you why it makes me interested in this subject is that the government held accountable for printing and imaging centers to Aiardthm through the meter reading and of course the client did not use the machine all this number of copies
              Abdelrhmn Adel

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              • imaginemoko
                unTrusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Jan 2008
                • 289

                #8
                yeah as mention you should replace a certain part, i wont mention it also... sorry.
                fix the customer first then fix the machine... its simple and makes life more easy.

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                • Shadow1
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1642

                  #9
                  Yes, there is a way to do it from an SP mode, and yes there are other ways if you don't know how to do it from the keypad. (And I'm not telling)

                  But the point is that its illegal, and the only reasons to do so are questionable at the very least. It makes no difference if the customer requested it - that just moves the responsability from a shady salesperson who wants to pass it off as low mileage, to a shady customer who wants to resell it with low mileage.(or lower mileage when they're done with it)
                  73 DE W5SSJ

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                  • TonerMunkeh
                    Professional Moron

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3865

                    #10
                    Regardless of whom has made the copies on this machine, selling a second-hand machine as new is fraud, simple as.
                    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                    Hit it.

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                    • aswelem
                      Technician
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 16

                      #11
                      ok
                      What part should change

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                      • randula7
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 73

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aswelem
                        Thank you for your response speed
                        But happened to me before he became the counter 00000000 during the maintenance process
                        With regard to the legitimacy of the subject of whether the issue is legitimate and will be at the request of the client itself
                        .................... wow bowrofl..gif

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                        • zyqwiz
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 333

                          #13
                          Resetting the counter and selling as new is fraud - resetting the counter is not illegal. I know people who get a MP7500 and sell it as a MPC7500 or a 3245c and sell it as an MPC4500! You can't reset the total count through any sort of SP mode though. The trick with reseting the electronic count for billing purposes is to leave the mechanical counter as it is - you don't want to be servicing a machine that you think has done 500k and its actually done 4 million!

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                          • aswelem
                            Technician
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Thank you all
                            The problem is that I've got a technical problem and not a moral problem
                            When clients ask reasons for them Counters small figures
                            But the aim is not to sell them as new
                            can any one believes that there is a ricoh 350 new or Ricoh 2035 or 2090 ?
                            The issue is not the subject of commercial fraud but is the subject of a purely technical
                            Abdelrhmn Adel

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                            • Shadow1
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1642

                              #15
                              We're not worried about you trying to defraud a customer - most anybody smart enough to work on a copier is smart enough to realize how badly that will bite them - but at the same time any salesperson or customer willing to lie and resell a reset machine as low mileage will be just as willing to lie to the tech. There's just no real reason to reset a counter.
                              73 DE W5SSJ

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