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  • Shadow1
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Sep 2008
    • 1642

    #16
    My experience is that at over 400k the updated fusers don't look quite as smooth and shiny as the web fuser, but at 3x PM does it really matter? Kind of like the difference between a B064 fuser using a web and the previous model with the oil roller. You might be losing 50 or 100k on the hot roller, but it takes a lot less time changing a hot roller every 3rd PM cycle instead of every 4th than it does to change that web every 160k. In any case, as long as it still makes it well over its rated PM life Ricoh really can't complain, and your customers will be happier when you get to your next call a half hour earlier than if you had to rebuild a web.
    73 DE W5SSJ

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    • mtech
      Technician

      250+ Posts
      • Mar 2007
      • 307

      #17
      It sounds very interesting! I will give it a try. Thanks for the PDF! Job well done!

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      • JHahn7837
        Technician
        • Apr 2010
        • 11

        #18
        I am with shadow1. Willing to sacrifice a few thousand to avoid the web replacement. However, If the oil roller yields a 160K UFR, no thank you.

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        • df3036
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Feb 2009
          • 109

          #19
          It's yielding 400k+ so far as I can tell with no noticeable fuser jamming or copy quality problems.
          Kittens give Morbo gas.

          A+, Network+, Server+, PDI+

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          • unisys12
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 489

            #20
            Originally posted by Shadow1
            In any case, as long as it still makes it well over its rated PM life Ricoh really can't complain...
            Sure they can, because that's less parts being sold!

            I know where everyone is coming from on this... My manager just hasn't let us do it yet. I might just change two over come Monday, because we have two webs at the shop waiting to be rebuilt, but no webs. And both owners are off to the Savin Connections meeting in Vegas. Sounds like time to take matters into our own hands.
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            • msaeger
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Sep 2008
              • 333

              #21
              Cool mod but I doubt I will ever do it I am too by the book. Thanks to whoever pointed out that you can run the machine without a web unit it in. Today while I spent 15 minutes replacing a web I threw the fuser back in so the customer could still use the machine.

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              • jonezy999
                just one copy??

                Site Contributor
                500+ Posts
                • Feb 2010
                • 952

                #22
                This is great. I have been waiting for one of these webs to run out to try this and today i got the chance. So much easier and time efficient. Thank you very much.
                I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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                • freginold
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 102

                  #23
                  Cool idea, I might just have to give this a try. Got a lot of 4000's and 5000's so this would definitely cut down on service time. Those hot rollers run great, so even if the oil roller doesn't provide the same level of cleaning and lubrication that the web does, it shouldn't be a noticeable difference.
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                  • jonezy999
                    just one copy??

                    Site Contributor
                    500+ Posts
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 952

                    #24
                    Been nearly a full year since I did my first one of these mods. Have 5 machines now, all running a dream with the oil rollers. Thanks again.
                    I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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                    • Shadow1
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1642

                      #25
                      I don't even carry the web or web assembly anymore - just been updating everything with an oil roller. I do set the PM counters back to near default so it will ask for a new "web" somewhere between 150 and 200k (about every other developer change - even with the updated dev assy and new toner.)

                      I have found some springs that work much better than clipping the old ones, maybe I'll get around to updating my PDF sometime soon, but the part number is: AA063529
                      73 DE W5SSJ

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                      • jonezy999
                        just one copy??

                        Site Contributor
                        500+ Posts
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 952

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Shadow1
                        I don't even carry the web or web assembly anymore - just been updating everything with an oil roller. I do set the PM counters back to near default so it will ask for a new "web" somewhere between 150 and 200k (about every other developer change - even with the updated dev assy and new toner.)

                        I have found some springs that work much better than clipping the old ones, maybe I'll get around to updating my PDF sometime soon, but the part number is: AA063529
                        Cheers for the update. Ill add that P\N to my notes.
                        I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. ~Thomas Edison

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                        • rsyarcia
                          Hair Straightener Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 711

                          #27
                          Thank you for the mod!
                          Nobody is perfect..

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                          • Hemlock
                            Trusted Tech

                            250+ Posts
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 432

                            #28
                            So, who's gonna be the one to try this on an 1107/1357?
                            “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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                            • df3036
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 109

                              #29
                              Re: Ricoh "Field Tech Bulletins"

                              Just got a new MP5002 and it still has the same oil webs. Have heard that the MPC6000 oil rollers work too. Have not tried that yet though...
                              Kittens give Morbo gas.

                              A+, Network+, Server+, PDI+

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                              • Polarbear
                                Service Manager

                                1,000+ Posts
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 1070

                                #30
                                Re: Ricoh "Field Tech Bulletins"

                                Well done!

                                just this morning one of our techs was cursing while rebuilding just such a unit! He is going to "kiss your feet" once he sees this document!

                                This is the beauty of a forum like this! We are doing all the R&D for Ricoh these days it seems!
                                Press the GREEN button!!

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