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  • Dave10
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    • Jul 2008
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    #1

    How to format the hdd on a savin sdc555

    Customer has a Savin SDC555, they want to clear the hard drive before they send the machine back to the dealer. I need to know how to get into simulation/maintenance mode and how to format the HDD. also just as a backup is there any sort of digital copier HDD formatting software that is available to download to a labtop to bring with us in case the simulation formatting doesn't work?
    Thanks.
  • tcs04
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    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2009
    • 1183

    #2
    Originally posted by Dave10
    Customer has a Savin SDC555, they want to clear the hard drive before they send the machine back to the dealer. I need to know how to get into simulation/maintenance mode and how to format the HDD. also just as a backup is there any sort of digital copier HDD formatting software that is available to download to a labtop to bring with us in case the simulation formatting doesn't work?
    Thanks.
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    • teebee1234
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      • Jul 2008
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      #3
      Formatting the HDD using the format function on the copier is like formatting a pc hard drive. It only erases the address tables of the files so it's not readable by the device and eventually gets overridden later by subsequent jobs. The files can still be recovered by someone with a little knowledge and special software. The new Ricoh policy just started is that the customer signs a release form when we remove a copier from their site, giving up control of the HDD. They are given the option of buying the HDD that's in it ($350 we were told at a service meeting) to cover our costs of replacing them (flat cost, whether it's a single drive or a 4 pack RAID like on the 3260).
      I'm sure there is software/freeware available to do a NSA/DOD type of formatting with your laptop. I don't have any suggestions readily available but I'm sure someone will post some sites soon.
      To format using the device, use SP5-832-001
      Last edited by teebee1234; 08-19-2010, 12:18 AM.

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      • delosangeles
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        250+ Posts
        • May 2008
        • 274

        #4
        Originally posted by Dave10
        Customer has a Savin SDC555, they want to clear the hard drive before they send the machine back to the dealer. I need to know how to get into simulation/maintenance mode and how to format the HDD. also just as a backup is there any sort of digital copier HDD formatting software that is available to download to a labtop to bring with us in case the simulation formatting doesn't work?
        Thanks.
        To do a proper job order the data overwrite option that I've highlighted in red below. Once installed erase the clients data then uninstall and it can be used on other clients equipment.


        Model Name Description
        EDP
        Code
        Lanier
        ID
        Product
        Code
        Common
        / Unique
        RICOH Aficio 3260C
        Savin C6045
        Gestetner DSc460
        Lanier LD160c
        B132 Mainframe
        45 ppm Color
        60 ppm B/W
        412507 216-1225 B132 U
        RICOH Aficio Color 5560
        Savin SDC555
        Gestetner CS555
        Lanier LC155
        B200 Mainframe
        55 ppm Color
        60 ppm B/W
        412509 216-1226 B200 U
        Tab Sheet Holder Type 3260 Tab Sheet Holder 412203 216-7112 B499 U
        Copy Tray Type 2075 Copy Tray 412190 216-7113 B756 C
        SR970 Finisher 3000sheet/50sheet Staple 412205 216-1227 B701 U
        SR980 Finisher


        (discontinued) 2000sheet/Saddle Stitch 412207 216-1228 B700 U
        SR4000

        (replaces SR980) 2000sheet/Saddle Stitch 412803 479-1679 B700 U
        Punch Unit Type 3260 NA 3/2 Punch Unit for SR970/980 3/2 412209 216-7116 B702 U
        Output Jogger Unit Type 3260 Jogger Unit for SR970/980 412212 216-7117 B703 U
        A3/11"x17" Tray Unit Type 1075 A3/11"x17" Tray 411398 481-0678 B331 C
        Mail Box CS391 9-bin Mailbox 412191 216-1229 B762 C
        Cover Interposer Tray Type 3260 Cover Interposer 412213 216-7118 B704 U
        Card Reader Bracket Type B Key Card Bracket 412279 216-7122 B498 U
        Printer/Scanner Unit Type 3260 Printer/Scanner Unit_NA 412583 216-7119 B737 U
        PostScript3 Unit Type 3260 PostScript3 Unit 412223 216-7120 B761 U
        Interface Unit Type 3260 NIC+USB2.0 412222 216-7121 B736 U
        Copy Connector Type 3260 Copy Connector 412415 216-7127 B328 U
        IEEE 802.11b Interface Unit Type H Wireless LAN 402378 216-7091 G813 U
        LCT Adapter Type B

        (*1) LCT Adapter 412204 216-7114 B699 U
        RT43

        (*1) RT43 411182 481-0527 B473 C
        8 1/2"x 14" Paper Tray Type 1075 8 1/2"x 14" Paper Size Tray 411187 481-0534 B474 C
        SR841 Finisher

        (*2) SR841 3000sheet/100sheet 411873 479-1566 B706-57 C
        SR842 Finisher

        (*3) SR842 3000sheet/100sheet 413310 479-1759 B706-37 U
        Finisher Adapter Type A

        (*2) Finisher Adapter for SR841 412215 216-7115 B698 U
        Finisher Adapter Type B

        (*3) Finisher Adapter for SR842 413312 481-7139 B698-02 U
        Punch Unit Type 1075 NA 3/2 Punch Unit 411198 481-0529 B531 C
        Output Jogger Unit Type 1075 Output Jogger Unit 411206 481-0538 B513 C
        File Format Converter Type B File Format Converter 411400 481-0679 B609 C
        Key Counter Bracket Type 1027 Key Counter Bracket 411013 481-0478 B452 C
        DataOverSecurity Unit Type C DataOverSecurity Unit EDP code 411989 Lanier 481-0873 Product code B735 Common item
        IEEE 1394 Interface Board Type B IEEE 1394 Interface Board 411264 481-0683 B581 C
        IEEE 1284 Interface Unit Type A IEEE 1284 Interface Unit 411699 481-0786 B679 C
        VM Card Type B VM Card 413133 481-0916 B782 C
        Bluetooth Interface Unit Type 3245 Bluetooth Interface Unit 412178 216-7092 B736 C
        Optional Counter Interface Unit A Counter Interface Type A 413012 216-7186 B870 C

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        • tcs04
          FORMER Techie

          1,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 1183

          #5
          Originally posted by teebee1234
          Formatting the HDD using the format function on the copier is like formatting a pc hard drive. It only tags the the first character of the file so it's not readable by the device and eventually gets overridden later by subsequent jobs. The files can still be recovered by someone with a little knowledge and special software. The new Ricoh policy just started is that the customer signs a release form when we remove a copier from their site, giving up control of the HDD. They are given the option of buying the HDD that's in it ($350 we were told at a service meeting) to cover our costs of replacing them (flat cost, whether it's a single drive or a 4 pack RAID like on the 3260).
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          • delosangeles
            Trusted Tech

            250+ Posts
            • May 2008
            • 274

            #6
            Originally posted by tcs04
            4lb CLUB HAMMER!!
            You would still have the cost of installing new HDD's so the machine is functionable. Having the data overwrite option as a in-house tool enables the cost of it to be spread out among several clients.

            jmho
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            • mike*
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Jun 2010
              • 58

              #7
              what adverse affects will come from doing a full DoD standard overwrite then popping it back into the machine? any error codes or anything or will we just have to reformat the HDD in the machine after we wipe it? Tell me the SDC555 doesnt have a RAID setup....

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              • Choro1dal
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Jun 2008
                • 176

                #8
                Ricoh devices store data in proprietory format so it's highly unlikely Joe Public is going to be able to recover it. If the MFD HDD format is not secure enough for the customer, you could either sell them the drive or remove it for them to wipe and then reinstall it. Otherwise it's a 4 pound club hammer.

                There are no adverse affects from removing the drive, reformatting to DoD/NSA standards with a 3rd party utility then reinstalling the drive. Provided that once you reboot you reformat the drive in SP mode so that the drive(s) are repartioned correctly.

                In this age of data security dont forget that sensitive information is also stored on the controller and NV-RAM. (Network settings/ File Transfer settings, user account credentials etc)

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                • teebee1234
                  Service Manager

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1670

                  #9
                  One caveat though, if you have multiple RAID drives (3260c(4),MPC6000(2)) and and do a standard format, they will not work again in the device. I'm not sure if there is software or a certain procedure that will do a special formatting, maybe someone can post suggestions.

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                  • mike*
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 58

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Choro1dal
                    Ricoh devices store data in proprietory format so it's highly unlikely Joe Public is going to be able to recover it. If the MFD HDD format is not secure enough for the customer, you could either sell them the drive or remove it for them to wipe and then reinstall it. Otherwise it's a 4 pound club hammer.

                    There are no adverse affects from removing the drive, reformatting to DoD/NSA standards with a 3rd party utility then reinstalling the drive. Provided that once you reboot you reformat the drive in SP mode so that the drive(s) are repartioned correctly.

                    In this age of data security dont forget that sensitive information is also stored on the controller and NV-RAM. (Network settings/ File Transfer settings, user account credentials etc)

                    sp mode? we work mainly on kyocera and konica minoltas so bear with me...how do we reformat in sp mode to re-partition the drive?

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                    • teebee1234
                      Service Manager

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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1670

                      #11
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