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  • barratec
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Jun 2008
    • 162

    #1

    RICOH MPC6000 quality problem

    I've got a quality problem with a mpc6000 (588.000 prints) of strange white stripes on a edge of the A3 paper (not A4) both in copying and printing. I presume it depends only from the black unit because if i print only magenta,yellow or cyan the color is correct.
    I've attached the samples.
    I've tried yet: new developing unit, new charge corona unit, new drum, new blades and brush, new transfer belt, and new transfer roller. But it still present the problem.

    Thanks in advance for any idea!!
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  • Lotec
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Feb 2008
    • 97

    #2
    Seen that before...

    I've had this problem before. I just can't remember what the reason was .
    I'll check if I can find the service log that explains it.

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    • barratec
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      • Jun 2008
      • 162

      #3
      Thank you very much Lotec!!!!!!!!!You'd give me a wonderful present!!!

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      • Jomama46
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        • Apr 2008
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        #4
        Reseat the RAM
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        • Shadow1
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          • Sep 2008
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          #5
          That looks remarkably like severely depleted developer. Did this problem come back immediately after you added developer to the new unit, or did it work for a while?
          73 DE W5SSJ

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          • tcs04
            FORMER Techie

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            • Apr 2009
            • 1183

            #6
            Looks like lack of dev / dev unit augers not turning. you can see the start or the 45 degree lines caused by the interaction between the dev and the tips of the augers they throw lines of dev against the mag roller. I think there was a bulletin for this machine. There was one for a similar fault on the AF3245... See attached.
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            • barratec
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              • Jun 2008
              • 162

              #7
              Originally posted by Shadow1
              That looks remarkably like severely depleted developer. Did this problem come back immediately after you added developer to the new unit, or did it work for a while?
              It worked for a while. I think TCS04 is right. Now i go to the customer's machine and try to change developer again , clean inside the development unit, and change the clutch.
              I'll notice you the result!
              Thank you very much all you guys for the help!!!!

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              • barratec
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                • Jun 2008
                • 162

                #8
                After a deeper check i saw that the machine show the problem with both A4 and A3 paper format only when the thick paper is selected; probably because the dev unit in that case turns slowly and so can't refurnish the mag roller of dev/toner correctly , especially printing with high coverage percentage of toner.
                Then today i did an attempt to solve the problem without changing anything:

                -performed a forced toner k supply sp 2-251-1
                -performed sp 5-804-99 (dev k motor rotation) for about 15 minutes
                -set sp 1-010-5 , sp 1-011-5 and sp 1-o12-5 from 0 to 3 (dev k motor speed)

                It seems working good now (i don't know for how long!!)

                I let you know the long term result.

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                • Jomama46
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  #9
                  Interesting and I fully understand your wanting to keep the customers uptime at a high, but all the same it would have been instructive to know if just changing the clutch would have solved it. Thanks for the feedback.
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                  • barratec
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 162

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jomama46
                    Interesting and I fully understand your wanting to keep the customers uptime at a high, but all the same it would have been instructive to know if just changing the clutch would have solved it. Thanks for the feedback.
                    I think there's no clutch but only the development motor and some gears on this model of machine that has a different development unit and a different adding toner system respect the AF3245. I tried to find something like clutches on the parts catalogue but i didn't see anything.
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                    • Jomama46
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                      • Apr 2008
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                      #11
                      I stand corrected, there is no clutch, this model has four developer motors
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                      • barratec
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 162

                        #12
                        Originally posted by barratec
                        After a deeper check i saw that the machine show the problem with both A4 and A3 paper format only when the thick paper is selected; probably because the dev unit in that case turns slowly and so can't refurnish the mag roller of dev/toner correctly , especially printing with high coverage percentage of toner.
                        Then today i did an attempt to solve the problem without changing anything:

                        -performed a forced toner k supply sp 2-251-1
                        -performed sp 5-804-99 (dev k motor rotation) for about 15 minutes
                        -set sp 1-010-5 , sp 1-011-5 and sp 1-o12-5 from 0 to 3 (dev k motor speed)

                        It seems working good now (i don't know for how long!!)

                        I let you know the long term result.
                        I've seen today the machine: after about 20.000 prints with high color coverage percentage it's still working fine!!

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                        • turbojetboy
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 279

                          #13
                          Seen this a few times, in every case found dev level depleted, added about 1/3 bottle and all was good again (for a while). Removing the trickle feed auger one way drive will stop the problem but may introduce some overtoning. Also check machine level.

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                          • zulufan1
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 45

                            #14
                            Re: RICOH MPC6000 quality problem

                            My team experienced this very problem, and went a few rounds trying to resolve it. Finally, the Developer Drive Motor for black and the driver board fixed our ongoing problem....

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