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  • printsnow
    Technician
    • Oct 2010
    • 24

    #1

    Ricoh MP 2550 - Light Copies

    I have a MP 2550 that continues to have light copies. I have put new developer, new drum, etc and it will not correct the problem. I did the forced toner supply and it will be OK for awhile, then copies get light again. Any tips, we have always had issues with this unit! Thanks in advance this thing is driving us crazy!
  • TonerMunkeh
    Professional Moron

    2,500+ Posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 3865

    #2
    Could be the TD sensor's had it. Try replacing the PCU, B205 0151.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    • printsnow
      Technician
      • Oct 2010
      • 24

      #3
      Thanx TonerMunkeh, I just ordered one of those. Hopefully, that will take care of it, we have basically rebuilt the whole thing prior to this. Thanx again.

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      • Eric1968
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2009
        • 2458

        #4
        Is the laser shield glass clean?

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        • printsnow
          Technician
          • Oct 2010
          • 24

          #5
          Yeah, the shield glass is clean as a whistle! Thnx!

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          • TonerMunkeh
            Professional Moron

            2,500+ Posts
            • Apr 2008
            • 3865

            #6
            How many copies has this machine done? Could be tha auger gears in the PCU have been stripped. Does the machine ever go to toner end or do the copies just go pale?
            It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

            Hit it.

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            • printsnow
              Technician
              • Oct 2010
              • 24

              #7
              It only has about 130,000 on it. We didn't experience the light copies until we replaced the drum/developer. Talked to RFG rep and said to add the toner, didn't work, then we replaced drum again, because we thought it was defective. Just put a new toner in it when we replaced the developer. It doesn't say add toner, copies just fade after multiple prints (about three days) in between calls. This unit has been a nightmare since we got it. It squeaks on and off all the time, replaced everything possible for that, It's a good customer, but we have had hell with this machine.

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              • XXX
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Nov 2010
                • 69

                #8
                Type 1027 Photoconductor Units

                Originally posted by printsnow
                It only has about 130,000 on it. We didn't experience the light copies until we replaced the drum/developer. Talked to RFG rep and said to add the toner, didn't work, then we replaced drum again, because we thought it was defective. Just put a new toner in it when we replaced the developer. It doesn't say add toner, copies just fade after multiple prints (about three days) in between calls. This unit has been a nightmare since we got it. It squeaks on and off all the time, replaced everything possible for that, It's a good customer, but we have had hell with this machine.
                I gave up rebuilding 3025 & 3030 PCU's in favour of swapping in the 1027/2027 PCU's along with the A2673831 transfer roller assy and never looked back.

                The MP2550 is the same machine and takes the same T-2120D toner, so I can't see why this fix wouldn't work.

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                • iMind
                  Vacuum Cleaning Expert

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1116

                  #9
                  The MP2550 is the same machine and takes the same T-2120D toner, so I can't see why this fix wouldn't work.
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                  • TonerMunkeh
                    Professional Moron

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3865

                    #10
                    Originally posted by printsnow
                    It only has about 130,000 on it. We didn't experience the light copies until we replaced the drum/developer. Talked to RFG rep and said to add the toner, didn't work, then we replaced drum again, because we thought it was defective. Just put a new toner in it when we replaced the developer. It doesn't say add toner, copies just fade after multiple prints (about three days) in between calls. This unit has been a nightmare since we got it. It squeaks on and off all the time, replaced everything possible for that, It's a good customer, but we have had hell with this machine.
                    Ooooh, hang on - which developer did you put in it?
                    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

                    Hit it.

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                    • NeoMatrix
                      Senior Tech.

                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3513

                      #11
                      Howdy Printsnow....
                      Sounds very much like you have two stripped developer stirring gears(one coloured white, one coloured black) in the bottom section of the developer tank.
                      You will have to purchase the entire bottom dev tank case as these two dev gears are attached as a
                      sealed unit into the lower case. These gear become so thing and small in the mesh-teeth can flex and jump over(no-mesh) the top gears in the top section of the dev-tank. If you have no toner orga you will have no toner distributed through the tank and light copies after two or three days....

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                      • printsnow
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 24

                        #12
                        Thanks everyone, I am getting a whole PCU in Monday and hopefully it will take care of everything, hated to do that but I just want to get this thing overwith. I did put the Type 28 developer in it for the 2550. I will let you all know on Monday what the outcome is. Really appreciate all the help!

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                        • XXX
                          Technician

                          50+ Posts
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 69

                          #13
                          Originally posted by printsnow
                          Thanks everyone, I am getting a whole PCU in Monday and hopefully it will take care of everything, hated to do that but I just want to get this thing overwith. I did put the Type 28 developer in it for the 2550. I will let you all know on Monday what the outcome is. Really appreciate all the help!
                          iMind had a good point, but if you're a small dealer and all of your customers are on contract & you only have a few Tech's then there is no reason not to switch to the 1027 PCU's other than the cost maybe.

                          We rebuild 1018/2018 PCU's because they work and it's cheaper but you have to look at the lower dev gears when you're working on it or you'll be back soon and waste a load of dev.

                          Like I said, I gave up on PM'ing 3025 PCU's because of the undertoning problem and it made sense to use the cheaper transfer roller assy' from the 270/1027/2027's to match the PCU.

                          I have a hard time picturing an experienced tech mistaking a type 1027 PCU for a 3025 or 2550 PCU but it really wouldn't matter as "most" parts would fit anyways.

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                          • printsnow
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Hey all, PCU seemed to take care of problem, thank you for all the posts!

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                            • iMind
                              Vacuum Cleaning Expert

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1116

                              #15
                              Nice too hear that, thanks for the feedback.
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