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  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22798

    #16
    Re: SC792 without finisher

    Originally posted by slimslob
    You show as a Junior member. That should be junior idiot. If you disconnect the finisher but do not remove the bridge unit, you will get an SC792 at power up. The only way around it is to remove the bridge unit, which is exactly what you would learn by calling Ricoh.
    as ALWAYS.. Slimslob.... HITS the nail on the HEAD!

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    • sturmtrooper
      Copier Combobulator

      500+ Posts
      • May 2016
      • 587

      #17
      Re: SC792 without finisher

      Originally posted by viperiii
      being that I just ran across a unit setup this way and the customer was told the exact thing above....
      interesting that it is many years later....

      yes its an older unit they purchased off lease and same advice was given to them by their company....

      "Ignore that Blaring Error - Call technician - machine Broke... but its fine all things function fine - nothing to see here... move along..."

      ahhh....yeah... Nope.... that is not an OK answer for a unit literally just dropped off....

      Again ...
      No way to fix a Blaring error and tell Customer to ignore the error...
      Yeah.. that is AWFUL / Terrible for an answer...

      vs Fix the error...

      apparently if you remove the bridge the error remains.
      so there needs to be a blank plate / addon to the internal finisher in the unit from what I'm reading...

      I'd bet a call to Ricoh direct would resolve the issue... which means I have track the service company down and then verify if they even have access to Ricoh direct and then ask the questions.

      yes probably a $10 part that will end up costing $100 sure... but I can almost guarantee there is a fix for the error...

      Customer wants a unit that isn't throwing errors...

      being the units can be sold with internal only finisher options... it means simply there is a part that is needed for the system to understand there is no external finisher and the servicing company should have corrected that before deliver....

      make sense now?

      ----------
      last error I documented has to do with FTP...
      that issue was met with all up to date must be you....

      wasn't.....
      Removing the bridge unit will remove the code. There is no way to suppress the code. Why would Ricoh bother to make one? The point of the code is that if the machine detects a bridge unit it should also detect a finisher and if it doesn't the finisher is either not there or broken.

      If the finisher is only going to be gone for a short time just leave the bridge unit in. If the customer is bothered by the code or the finisher is going to be gone a long time take it out.

      Why are you so wound around the axle about this?

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      • viperiii
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 6

        #18
        Re: SC792 without finisher

        Originally posted by COPIERMAN
        yes the proper way to fix it was remove bridge unit along with finisher. then you would need to have the following items cover for bridge unit and an exit tray cover . If you don't have those then items then easiest so let them know about code. i have customers that had this same issue they were fine leaving bridge unit in place and the ones who didn't like it i just remove bridge unit.
        That is what I was after a clear cut fix...

        my thought was different and agree panties in a major knot over an 8 year old thread with a massive amount of WTF Really? that is the answer...
        but that answer comes up when googling the fix.... and thus my over the top, probably not my best form... oh well...

        <rant>
        its apparently ok to leave the "Check Engine Light" on with something - no biggie - works fine.... is what threw me.... and my "Fit" actually generated a helpful set of correct answers
        </rant>

        -----
        Appreciate the clear answer above and ignoring my <rant> side...

        I can handle Junior Idiot
        I'll wear it proudly
        -----
        either way fair enough on the criticism -
        [TLDP - History]
        All of this is because a servicing company that just dropped of an off-lease unit at one of my clients gave them that answer...
        it will never have the finisher on - won't fit in that space -
        I asked the guy that set it up (remote from that location) get rid of that error - he said if you find out how I'd love to know...
        Came across the answer above and flipped my $#&$ that same answer was given - even though probably a difference situation.
        (agree probably not the best post - and can accept that is my shame to carry)

        Lighter note I'll tell them not to stick pins in the open plug/s

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        • NeoMatrix
          Senior Tech.

          2,500+ Posts
          • Nov 2010
          • 3513

          #19
          Re: SC792 without finisher

          Originally posted by sturmtrooper
          Removing the bridge unit will remove the code. There is no way to suppress the code. Why would Ricoh bother to make one? The point of the code is that if the machine detects a bridge unit it should also detect a finisher and if it doesn't the finisher is either not there or broken.

          If the finisher is only going to be gone for a short time just leave the bridge unit in. If the customer is bothered by the code or the finisher is going to be gone a long time take it out.

          Why are you so wound around the axle about this?
          Re. StrumTrooper Quote:

          Two paragraphs of comprehension text compared to 15 incoherent paragraphs of chaff.

          The above post was able to be read "and more importantly understood", with out all the brain fog chaff.

          Nicely and concisely done....

          A billion more of the younger(some older) generation should stick to the English language rules they were taught in school. Those people would find there is less and less confusion causing SCI(self context interpretation) and therefore less heated replies to the written word.

          Failure to effectively communicate ones intention is a big problem with today's cell phone texting generation.
          Last edited by NeoMatrix; 04-11-2019, 09:14 PM.
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          • viperiii
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 6

            #20
            Re: SC792 without finisher

            Not sure what you said ...
            The whole clear formatting and accurate wording is not something I can read

            I'll stick to barely comprehensible, thx tho!

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            • fshead
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2009
              • 2376

              #21
              Re: SC792 without finisher

              Originally posted by viperiii
              Not sure what you said ...
              The whole clear formatting and accurate wording is not something I can read

              I'll stick to barely comprehensible, thx tho!
              now you are sounding like a MAJOR IDIOT........

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              • slimslob
                Retired

                Site Contributor
                25,000+ Posts
                • May 2013
                • 37556

                #22
                Re: SC792 without finisher

                Originally posted by viperiii
                That is what I was after a clear cut fix...

                my thought was different and agree panties in a major knot over an 8 year old thread with a massive amount of WTF Really? that is the answer...
                but that answer comes up when googling the fix.... and thus my over the top, probably not my best form... oh well...

                <rant>
                its apparently ok to leave the "Check Engine Light" on with something - no biggie - works fine.... is what threw me.... and my "Fit" actually generated a helpful set of correct answers
                </rant>

                -----
                Appreciate the clear answer above and ignoring my <rant> side...

                I can handle Junior Idiot
                I'll wear it proudly
                -----
                either way fair enough on the criticism -
                [TLDP - History]
                All of this is because a servicing company that just dropped of an off-lease unit at one of my clients gave them that answer...
                it will never have the finisher on - won't fit in that space -
                I asked the guy that set it up (remote from that location) get rid of that error - he said if you find out how I'd love to know...
                Came across the answer above and flipped my $#&$ that same answer was given - even though probably a difference situation.
                (agree probably not the best post - and can accept that is my shame to carry)

                Lighter note I'll tell them not to stick pins in the open plug/s
                You need an attitude change or you are are going to keep collecting Red Cards.

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                • viperiii
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 6

                  #23
                  Re: SC792 without finisher

                  Originally posted by fshead
                  now you are sounding like a MAJOR IDIOT........
                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  You need an attitude change or you are are going to keep collecting Red Cards.
                  Believe I can roll with that, just remember I didn't call any of you names or attempt to (beyond initial "dumbest" comment)

                  However I do continue to receive the "Love":
                  lets see -
                  Grammar Police - taking their pound
                  (although that one I can accept respectfully, I get it - and tend to lean towards speed and gist - and fail on both on occasion - as correctly itemized)
                  Personality Cops - continue to quip
                  and apparently the AYSO - Cards?!?

                  I did call into question telling someone to leave an error light on and how IMO that is quite possibly the worst advice in many cases, specifically if the finisher will never be re-attached to the unit and yes on an 8 YO Thread, as it was relevant.

                  However I will admit that there are limited cases as shown above where it might be OK / Advisable or acceptable, however most clients will accept anything you tell them right/wrong.

                  -- Will also admit plainly that I did, indeed, overreact and was very wound up due to a tech giving that exact advise to a client, when he was pressed the same answer was given again.

                  ------------------------------------------------
                  So now that we're/I'm past all that (hopefully)

                  Basic Process noted in this ~equally old Video Correct?:

                  I know - worst quality video I could find, for more fun
                  Last edited by viperiii; 04-11-2019, 11:18 PM. Reason: because I'm typing too quickly and make too many mistakes to fix... but I'll attempt to....

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                  • slimslob
                    Retired

                    Site Contributor
                    25,000+ Posts
                    • May 2013
                    • 37556

                    #24
                    Re: SC792 without finisher

                    Originally posted by viperiii
                    Believe I can roll with that, just remember I didn't call any of you names or attempt to (beyond initial "dumbest" comment)

                    However I do continue to receive the "Love":
                    lets see -
                    Grammar Police - taking their pound
                    (although that one I can accept respectfully, I get it - and tend to lean towards speed and gist - and fail on both on occasion - as correctly itemized)
                    Personality Cops - continue to quip
                    and apparently the AYSO - Cards?!?

                    I did call into question telling someone to leave an error light on and how IMO that is quite possibly the worst advice in many cases, specifically if the finisher will never be re-attached to the unit and yes on an 8 YO Thread, as it was relevant.

                    However I will admit that there are limited cases as shown above where it might be OK / Advisable or acceptable, however most clients will accept anything you tell them right/wrong.

                    -- Will also admit plainly that I did, indeed, overreact and was very wound up due to a tech giving that exact advise to a client, when he was pressed the same answer was given again.

                    ------------------------------------------------
                    So now that we're/I'm past all that (hopefully)

                    Basic Process noted in this ~equally old Video Correct?:

                    I know - worst quality video I could find, for more fun
                    You have just earned yourself a spot on my ignore list. That means that should you have a problem for which I know the solution, you will not receive that solution because I will not see your post.

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