Ricoh 1013, 1013F, 1515, mp 161, mp 171 Charge roller (PCR)

[jonezy999]

Time is of coz important, but when i get correct pcr roller for rebuilding pcu, this will cost me maybe 1 hour work. This is i think not so long, so now think is that 1 hour is not worth 60-70$ and in day this give you 480-700 $ depends from skills, cost of materials and time of one day work (8-10 hours).

Mate, I charge $110 per hour, and my customers don't want to be waiting for me to source OEM parts, rebuild a consumable item and have it fail before its yield. Also on a machine such as a 1515, you still wont be able reset the "replace photoconductor" message by rebuilding the original unit as it does not have the contacts and actuators on the dev gear to trigger the reset.

To sum in up, I can buy a complete PCU for around $200 and have customers machine up and running in under 10 minutes. Now if I take the unit back to my workshop, source and order required parts and rebuild it, I would imagine the cost of parts and labour will be more than a genuine replacement I can slide in and forget about any worry of using inferior parts.

Each to their own, but as a Ricoh dealer many colour and a few production machines to look after, I really can't be arsed with a 15 copy per minute toner pig.

[marcus]

Mate, I charge $110 per hour, and my customers don't want to be waiting for me to source OEM parts, rebuild a consumable item and have it fail before its yield. Also on a machine such as a 1515, you still wont be able reset the "replace photoconductor" message by rebuilding the original unit as it does not have the contacts and actuators on the dev gear to trigger the reset.

To sum in up, I can buy a complete PCU for around $200 and have customers machine up and running in under 10 minutes. Now if I take the unit back to my workshop, source and order required parts and rebuild it, I would imagine the cost of parts and labour will be more than a genuine replacement I can slide in and forget about any worry of using inferior parts.

Each to their own, but as a Ricoh dealer many colour and a few production machines to look after, I really can't be arsed with a 15 copy per minute toner pig.

Well 110 $/hour this is for me out of space he he, I am dealer but in my small city (120K people) i can get 30-50$/hour, this is a small difrence dont ya think :-)
From other side i can reset this 1515 pcu after rebiuldind, and some other things, my needs and my skills are difrent than You, but i dont think so that i am better from other servician.

[jonezy999]

Well 110 $/hour this is for me out of space he he, I am dealer but in my small city (120K people) i can get 30-50$/hour, this is a small difrence dont ya think :-)
From other side i can reset this 1515 pcu after rebiuldind, and some other things, my needs and my skills are difrent than You, but i dont think so that i am better from other servician.

Im not here to tell you that anyone is better than anyone else here, just its not practical to do things that way. And dude a small city isn't 120K, population here is 17K. Now thats small. :-)

[marcus]

Im not here to tell you that anyone is better than anyone else here, just its not practical to do things that way. And dude a small city isn't 120K, population here is 17K. Now thats small. :-)

Ok, with small city You have right, there are smaller too :-)
Well with rebuilding of stella pcu, i would like to know how many times it is possible to re-use this plastic cover, I have experience with HP toner cartridge which have similar cover from plastic, and in HP sample Q2612A i can make rebuilding several times, ofczo with remove for new all important parts an he still is good.
Of coz this idea have can also save me some money, from third side after few years since i am copier technician there are a lot used copier parts which maybe can be re-use. If i can made rebuilding for HP or Samsung why not for Stella pcu, and last not least nobody say that did it, so it can be new experience.

[jonezy999]

Ok, with small city You have right, there are smaller too :-)
Well with rebuilding of stella pcu, i would like to know how many times it is possible to re-use this plastic cover, I have experience with HP toner cartridge which have similar cover from plastic, and in HP sample Q2612A i can make rebuilding several times, ofczo with remove for new all important parts an he still is good.
Of coz this idea have can also save me some money, from third side after few years since i am copier technician there are a lot used copier parts which maybe can be re-use. If i can made rebuilding for HP or Samsung why not for Stella pcu, and last not least nobody say that did it, so it can be new experience.

Sorry dude, but I just don't know what are trying to say. Thread closed for me.

[kevan750]

mp 161L

Can anyone tell me if the MP161L Photo Conductor Unit (DMU25) is a complete unit that includes drum unit and dev unit. Or is it just the drum unit?

I am unable to find parts in the manual for the unit (gears have failed) and reading this thread it would appear the quick and easy solution is a replacement unit. The only pictures I can find are just a drum and not the complete unit (as drawn in the parts manual on Tessa).


161L.doc


Thanks in advance.

Kev

[sandmanmac]

Re: mp 161L

Can anyone tell me if the MP161L Photo Conductor Unit (DMU25) is a complete unit that includes drum unit and dev unit. Or is it just the drum unit?

I am unable to find parts in the manual for the unit (gears have failed) and reading this thread it would appear the quick and easy solution is a replacement unit. The only pictures I can find are just a drum and not the complete unit (as drawn in the parts manual on Tessa).


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Thanks in advance.

Kev

Yes It's a complete unit. No individual parts available (at least at the Oem level). Part number (here in NA at least) is 411844.
FYI the 1515MF and MP171 all use the same unit.

[kevan750]

Re: Ricoh 1013, 1013F, 1515, mp 161, mp 171 Charge roller (PCR)

Brilliant,

Thank you sandmanmac

Quick too!

Appreciate it!

Regards

Kev

[kaptec2011]

Re: mp 161L

Can anyone tell me if the MP161L Photo Conductor Unit (DMU25) is a complete unit that includes drum unit and dev unit. Or is it just the drum unit?

I am unable to find parts in the manual for the unit (gears have failed) and reading this thread it would appear the quick and easy solution is a replacement unit. The only pictures I can find are just a drum and not the complete unit (as drawn in the parts manual on Tessa).


[ATTACH]17388[/ATTACH]


Thanks in advance.

Kev

Only katun sells a rebuild kit. OPC Drum Kit

OPC Drum
Drum Cleaning Blade
Charge Roller Wipe
Developer Measuring Cup
Rebuild Instructions
No Gears

[sandmanmac]

Re: mp 161L

Only katun sells a rebuild kit. OPC Drum Kit

OPC Drum
Drum Cleaning Blade
Charge Roller Wipe
Developer Measuring Cup
Rebuild Instructions
No Gears

Not worth the trouble in my opinion. by the time you add in the cost of dev and your time, the new unit is a better option

[kevan750]

Re: Ricoh 1013, 1013F, 1515, mp 161, mp 171 Charge roller (PCR)

I wont rebuild, have done that in the past found it to be a false economy. Thanks for the info though.

Regards

Kev

[Iowatech]

Re: Ricoh 1013, 1013F, 1515, mp 161, mp 171 Charge roller (PCR)

You can still clean the surface of charge rollers if they have marks on them. The marks are usually just toner or paper dust, and they will come right off with a little warm water on a soft cloth applied with a light touch. I've never had that PCU apart before, so I don't know if there is a charge roller cleaning roller, but if there is that needs to be vacuumed off, too.

[kevan750]

Re: Ricoh 1013, 1013F, 1515, mp 161, mp 171 Charge roller (PCR)

You can still clean the surface of charge rollers if they have marks on them. The marks are usually just toner or paper dust, and they will come right off with a little warm water on a soft cloth applied with a light touch. I've never had that PCU apart before, so I don't know if there is a charge roller cleaning roller, but if there is that needs to be vacuumed off, too.

Hi, the charge roller has a "fabric/brush" cleaning roller. The problem is broken gears (no dev auger drive), its nearly done its life and replacing the unit is the only sensible option really!

[Masterchief]

Re: Ricoh 1013, 1013F, 1515, mp 161, mp 171 Charge roller (PCR)

Plain and simple dont muck around and replace the PCU instead of giving yourself or others work.

You are the tecky on this call and you take the PCU apart to CLEAN the charge roller to prolong the CQ and now the customer is happy you finish and leave. Its 2 weeks later app and i have had a busy day its 4pm and im hoping to be sent home, I get a call from office that the customer you were at 2 weeks ago has CQ issues.

I arrive at site to have a look and its the same problem you had, So now im stripping down the PCU to get to the charge roller and now im listening to the Customer bang on about how i am doing everything you did on the call, how sick she is of the machine, how you only left and the problem started etc. I now have to assure her that i will do my best to provide a good service and continue to clean and hoover out the excess toner which has spilt over due to a faulty charge roller. I finally finish after 45 mins and report to the Customer that i will have to return with a PCU to solve the problem. The customer then says she/he knew that was the problem all along why did you not bother ordering it etc, now i have to wait and will my copying be affected for long to which i must promise within the next few days to a week.
I place the order and unfortunately you have used the last PCU on another call (F**K you anyway) so another must be ordered and could take a while. Its exactly a week and a day and the PCU is due in the following day So the Customer is now in a PI**Y humour and forgotten all about you and has it in for me because i did my job and was unlucky not to have the PCU in stock when needed. I have now been reported to my SM for promising her that i would have her machine perfect within a week to stop her ranting on about you and Calling in complaining....

So there is a Lesson, Do not cause yourself work or make work for others when you know it wont last. If it needs replacing soon.. Replace it sooner rather than later saving not only yourself but me the hassle

MASTERCHIEF

[kaptec2011]

Re: mp 161L

Not worth the trouble in my opinion. by the time you add in the cost of dev and your time, the new unit is a better option

I agree !