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  • Vioksrall
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Sep 2010
    • 84

    #1

    MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

    This is the first I encounter this problem. Right after the customer replaced the black toner, the system status displays UNDETECTABLE. Does anyone has experience with this kind of problem? Thanks
  • yezdi
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 3

    #2
    Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

    Originally posted by Vioksrall
    This is the first I encounter this problem. Right after the customer replaced the black toner, the system status displays UNDETECTABLE. Does anyone has experience with this kind of problem? Thanks
    You can switch off the this by using sp mode 5051.

    Enjoy

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    • TonerMunkeh
      Professional Moron

      2,500+ Posts
      • Apr 2008
      • 3865

      #3
      Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

      Is the machine actually working? Switching off the message won't help that.
      It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

      Hit it.

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      • dougg

        #4
        Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

        Do you mean "toner add" or undectected? Did you take toner sled cup apart and make sure mylar paddle are on inner cup? These mylars fall off and it would be like raking leaves with just the handle. Doesn't move any toner.

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        • teebee1234
          Service Manager

          Site Contributor
          1,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2008
          • 1670

          #5
          Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

          Originally posted by dougg
          Do you mean "toner add" or undectected? Did you take toner sled cup apart and make sure mylar paddle are on inner cup? These mylars fall off and it would be like raking leaves with just the handle. Doesn't move any toner.
          dougg, you're confusing this with the MP3500 type, this is the color box.

          Vioksrall, if you mean it's saying "end toner" then most likely the pump has failed. If it's saying "independent supplier toner is set", that means that the current bottle (if OEM of course), was previously inserted, read by the machine and then removed and replaced by another. In this case it will still work, just advise the customer to ignore the message until it runs out or turn off the message as described above (sp5050-001 set to 1).

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          • dougg

            #6
            Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

            Opps........sorry, missed the C in the MPC5000. I work on the MPC6000 and I have had bad toner bags because the ID chip is screwed up or it can't be read down in the holder from excess toner.

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            • Vioksrall
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Sep 2010
              • 84

              #7
              Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

              Originally posted by yezdi
              You can switch off the this by using sp mode 5051.

              Enjoy

              The SP mode 5051 is for the message "Independent Supplier Toner is Set". I already swithed OFF that mode. My problem is, when you press the status of all the toners, the Black toner displays "UNDETECTABLE" instead of percentage of toner that is left in the respective bottles. Thanks.

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              • Vioksrall
                Technician

                50+ Posts
                • Sep 2010
                • 84

                #8
                Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                Is the machine actually working? Switching off the message won't help that.
                Yes you are right, switching off the SP mode 5051 won't help. The machine is working but when you check the toner levels of the toners. For the black toner it displays "UNDETECTABLE" instead of percentage of the toner left inside the bottle. Thanks.

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                • Vioksrall
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 84

                  #9
                  Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                  Originally posted by dougg
                  Do you mean "toner add" or undectected? Did you take toner sled cup apart and make sure mylar paddle are on inner cup? These mylars fall off and it would be like raking leaves with just the handle. Doesn't move any toner.
                  When you check the toner level status at the screen, the Black toner displays "UNDETECTED" instead of percentage of toner left inside the bottle..Thanks.

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                  • Vioksrall
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 84

                    #10
                    Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                    Originally posted by teebee1234
                    dougg, you're confusing this with the MP3500 type, this is the color box.

                    Vioksrall, if you mean it's saying "end toner" then most likely the pump has failed. If it's saying "independent supplier toner is set", that means that the current bottle (if OEM of course), was previously inserted, read by the machine and then removed and replaced by another. In this case it will still work, just advise the customer to ignore the message until it runs out or turn off the message as described above (sp5050-001 set to 1).

                    Hi! When you check the toner level staus at the screen, it displays "UNDETECTABLE" instead of percentage of toner level inside the bottle unlike MGT, YLW, CYN are working fine.. Thanks

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                    • teebee1234
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1670

                      #11
                      Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                      In that case, what happens when you change sp5051-001 back to '0' and power off/on?

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                      • Vioksrall
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 84

                        #12
                        Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                        Originally posted by teebee1234
                        In that case, what happens when you change sp5051-001 back to '0' and power off/on?
                        It displays "Independent Toner is Set..." but still when you press the toner status, the black toner lever says "UNDETECTABLE"...

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                        • Zeldaman
                          Senior Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 946

                          #13
                          Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                          Originally posted by Vioksrall
                          It displays "Independent Toner is Set..." but still when you press the toner status, the black toner lever says "
                          UNDETECTABLE"...

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                          • marty

                            #14
                            Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                            Originally posted by Vioksrall
                            This is the first I encounter this problem. Right after the customer replaced the black toner, the system status displays UNDETECTABLE. Does anyone has experience with this kind of problem? Thanks
                            change black toner pump

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                            • Andy6096
                              Technician
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 14

                              #15
                              Re: MPC5000 Black Toner Undetectable

                              Remove the black pcu and see if it has plenty of toner in the developer unit thru the gate. If its full or nearly full change your black PCU or developer. The 40 and 50 ppm machines have this issue on black only.
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