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  • doctech

    #1

    scan to smb using Windows Vista Home

    Are there any tricks to this? I set it up like I do for XP but it did not work.
  • Cipher
    It's not easy being green

    1,000+ Posts
    • May 2006
    • 1309

    #2
    Some helpful info in this post below.

    • Knowledge not shared, is eventually knowledge that becomes lost... like tears in the rain.

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    • fausto1981
      IT Technician

      100+ Posts
      • Dec 2007
      • 146

      #3
      Here you go buddy,

      These devices transmit data using packet fragmentation. If this occurs during Scan to SMB, scanned data will not be accepted by the Vista SMB target client. Vista does not accept fragmented packets.

      [Resolution]

      There is a free patch released from Microsoft but only by request. Please contact Microsoft Support to obtain the patch discussed in KB Article Number: KB935755
      KB935755

      Good Luck with that!!!

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      • jeffreyozz
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Mar 2007
        • 52

        #4
        I had set up a smb folder when I got my Vista test machine. I had no problems.

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        • fausto1981
          IT Technician

          100+ Posts
          • Dec 2007
          • 146

          #5
          I had no problems either but maybe they are trying to scan to a Vista home edition.. is it the same OS you tried it on before.

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          • jeffreyozz
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Mar 2007
            • 52

            #6
            yes it was home edition. If I remember right I set up the smb the same as I did on my xp machine. No tricks, although the network settings dealing with norton had been previously changed, and maybe you have to set the ip to trusted under norton. I have onecare now, so I cant even go through and try to reduplicate.

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            • Cipher
              It's not easy being green

              1,000+ Posts
              • May 2006
              • 1309

              #7
              Nortons Internet Security 200x will block NetBIOS traffic by default.
              I've even had problems after removing the NetBIOS rule and creating a new rule permitting the traffic for the protocol and I.P range.

              McAfee use to be even worst.
              Everything would be fine then you would go to scan a file in via SMB and by the time you had walked back to your PC you had a BSOD to deal with.

              So you definely need to be aware of these various firewall applications that people run can cause issues.

              DaZ recommends Comodo Firewall.
              It's completely FREE and works well and does not suck your system resourses dry.
              But like most firewalls it blocks NetBIOS traffic by default.
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              • cmpelser
                Trusted Tech
                • Jan 2008
                • 173

                #8
                For me it was as simple as upgrading the firmware!!!

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                • oldtech
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • May 2007
                  • 83

                  #9
                  What model machine?

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                  • Nitrojunki

                    #10
                    Smb and vista

                    Did anyone have any luck with this hotfix? When I ran it
                    It reported that it does not apply to my system.
                    I am running both 64 bit vista home ult and busness version.
                    There must be a fix for this somewere.

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                    • kayjaig
                      Trusted Tech
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 144

                      #11
                      Make sure your folder is fully shared in the network

                      Make sure your folder is fully shared in the network with your Vista.
                      You may try to use public folder, and mark it shared fully to the network. path will be like this
                      \\computer name\public
                      good luck

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                      • Prodigal Son
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 161

                        #12
                        You sure the problem isn't rights? Often the machine must log onto the computer with an account and have write-rights in the folder it's to store the file in. I usually set up "C:\Scans" and give the machine full rights in that folder, then share it like kayjaig says, and put the UNC path (\\computername\foldername) in the address book of the machine, along with the logon username and password for the computer (create a new account or use an existing one, remember the account has to have a password set though).

                        Depending on the network setup logon criterias may or may not be needed, but for Home edition o/s that doesn't have domain logon support it can be a bit tricky to get it to work without having an account for the machine on the computer. Especially on Vista since it has all these security garbage that really only makes it less useful.

                        In a domain it's a lot easier, since you just create a new user in the active directory of the domain for the machine, and use that account for all computers. Still only works for computers that are logged onto the domain though, i.e not Home edition.
                        Peace sells, but who's buying?

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                        • Nitrojunki

                          #13
                          Yes, I did check to be sure the rights were correct. You can even log into the folder from another workstation and create files and folders using the same log in information. If I cycle the copier and browes to the folder I can get as far as the machine in the workgroup but when I try to access the shared folder it acts like the authentication is wrong. After that it will not even so much as show you the workgroups anymore.

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                          • Nitrojunki

                            #14
                            I took your advice and tried to use the public folder. I get the same thing. I am using the administators account to access it from the copier. You would think the admin would have rights to the public folder eh? By the way, all firewalls and antivirus is down. Nothing should be blocking this. I can access the folder using another workstation however, using the same account information as the copier.

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                            • Prodigal Son
                              Trusted Tech

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                              • Mar 2009
                              • 161

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nitrojunki
                              I took your advice and tried to use the public folder. I get the same thing. I am using the administators account to access it from the copier. You would think the admin would have rights to the public folder eh? By the way, all firewalls and antivirus is down. Nothing should be blocking this. I can access the folder using another workstation however, using the same account information as the copier.
                              The admin should be able to access it, yes. I would double-check username and password to begin with, it might be case sensitive so be sure to type it correctly. Firewalls and such shouldn't be a problem unless it's timing out. When the firewall blocks traffic the copier will try again and again until it times out and gives you a message. If it immediatly gives you a message (like within 5 seconds) it should a problem with authentication.

                              The computers are not logged onto a domain, you're sure? (Onto a server). Could you ask the customer to show you the logon process, from when they start the computer until they're on the desktop? That'll give you an idea if they're logging into some sort of system, could be a Windows-domain or a Netware server. You could also check by right-clicking My Computer (or simply 'Computer' in Vista) and go to the 'Computer Name' tab (here is a guide). If there is a field called 'Domain' then they're part of a domain and then the copier must also be member of that domain for it to work properly, but if the same field says 'Workgroup' then the local computer accounts apply. It's important because if the other computers are members of a domain then they have the trust from the domain controller (server) to access any shared resources in the network (that aren't otherwise locked), but if the copier doesn't have an established trust with the domain controller it can't reach much at all.

                              If there aren't a domain involved; Is the copier member of the same workgroup as the computer/s? That could explain some things, though I wouldn't place my bets on it.

                              Other than that I'd check for irregularities within Vista. It's known for it's bugs and "security measures" which I personally just hate, for lack of a better word. If all else fails, disable all security stuff within Vista such as the UAC and file protection system. Google for it if you need the know-how.

                              I hope this helps!


                              Edit: I just read the thread again and I see it's a Vista Home computer, right? Home editions don't even have domain logons so that shouldn't even be applicable, but still Maybe somebody could use it some other time.
                              Peace sells, but who's buying?

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