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  • BLADE
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    martini experts - comments please

    Just after some discussion or answers - The developer units become pressurised during operation (there are pressure relief filters and the 9001 even has a pressure release tube from the recyle unit - so pressure is a recognised issue). It would be reasonable to assume the toner station is also taking pressure. So what has my interest at the moment is the toner hopper swings into position over the dev unit and locates on two pins on the frame, there is a felt seal on the hopper but it doesnt appear to be a tight seal against the dev unit (because of the locating pins). Is this a source of toner dusting and does anybody adjust this situation
  • KenB
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    Re: martini experts - comments please

    I like my martinis extra dry.
    “I think you should treat good friends like a fine wine. That’s why I keep mine locked up in the basement.” - Tim Hawkins

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    • BLADE
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      Re: martini experts - comments please

      Originally posted by KenB
      I like my martinis extra dry.
      prefer some moisture myself - how are the horses

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      • Jomama46
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        I'm no martini expert but I do love me some dirty martinis.
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        • sandmanmac
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          Re: martini experts - comments please

          Originally posted by Jomama46
          I'm no martini expert but I do love me some dirty martinis.
          shaken, not stirred.

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          • Jomama46
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            Perzackly!
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            • mikadonovan
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              Re: martini experts - comments please

              Originally posted by BLADE
              Just after some discussion or answers - The developer units become pressurised during operation (there are pressure relief filters and the 9001 even has a pressure release tube from the recyle unit - so pressure is a recognised issue). It would be reasonable to assume the toner station is also taking pressure. So what has my interest at the moment is the toner hopper swings into position over the dev unit and locates on two pins on the frame, there is a felt seal on the hopper but it doesnt appear to be a tight seal against the dev unit (because of the locating pins). Is this a source of toner dusting and does anybody adjust this situation
              On top of the toner supply unit is the classification assembly(toner separation case). The top of the toner recycling pipe rests on that seal. When that seal gets worn it will start dusting quite a bit in that area. I replace them every 600K or sometimes sooner. When dusting bad in the area your talking about, I replace the toner hopper assembly as a whole. The chuck starts sticking and the toner bottle seal wears, as well as the seal on the bottom.
              NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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              • BLADE
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                Re: martini experts - comments please

                Originally posted by mikadonovan
                On top of the toner supply unit is the classification assembly(toner separation case). The top of the toner recycling pipe rests on that seal. When that seal gets worn it will start dusting quite a bit in that area. I replace them every 600K or sometimes sooner. When dusting bad in the area your talking about, I replace the toner hopper assembly as a whole. The chuck starts sticking and the toner bottle seal wears, as well as the seal on the bottom.
                thanks for the sensible reply lol, theres a lesson here somewhere

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                • mikadonovan
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                  Originally posted by BLADE
                  thanks for the sensible reply lol, theres a lesson here somewhere
                  Trust me, I wanted to throw out a martini quip, but all the good ones had already been used
                  NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                  • TonerMunkeh
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                    Re: martini experts - comments please

                    This one has been playing on my mind since I read it, so I did a bit of digging. If you look in the parts catalogue excerpts, you'll see a seal, item 25. It doesn't look like anything I've seen on any Martini's developer unit so I ordered one. Lo and behold, there IS a seal you can add to the top of the toner chute that would help with toner dusting.

                    MP6001 Toner Hopper.pdf
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                    • JimHegs
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                      Originally posted by KenB
                      I like my martinis extra dry.
                      Start with some top-shelf vodka, add a touch of Vermouth and two good olives. Drink, Repeat as necessary.
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                      • delosangeles
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                        Re: martini experts - comments please

                        Does the item function back to the Aficio 551's ? Thanks for the info.

                        Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                        This one has been playing on my mind since I read it, so I did a bit of digging. If you look in the parts catalogue excerpts, you'll see a seal, item 25. It doesn't look like anything I've seen on any Martini's developer unit so I ordered one. Lo and behold, there IS a seal you can add to the top of the toner chute that would help with toner dusting.

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                        • mikadonovan
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                          Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                          This one has been playing on my mind since I read it, so I did a bit of digging. If you look in the parts catalogue excerpts, you'll see a seal, item 25. It doesn't look like anything I've seen on any Martini's developer unit so I ordered one. Lo and behold, there IS a seal you can add to the top of the toner chute that would help with toner dusting.

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                          After reading your post, TM, I got to looking at that,too. None of my machines had that seal, or so I thought. The seal is actually underneath and not on top. It is in between the top and bottom sections of the case. I think they drew the picture wrong, although I don't see any problems with adding another one to the top.
                          NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                          • Jomama46
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                            Ah Ha! Good work Toner
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                            • BLADE
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                              Re: martini experts - comments please

                              Originally posted by Jomama46
                              Ah Ha! Good work Toner
                              a legend true !! .....the main point tho is the hopper locates to the frame and not the developer unit. you know youve got a duster (usually high vol) when you rock up to a machine and see dust coming out the vents above the bypass tray. I guess the root cause is the pressure and plugging holes is gunna just cause a leak somewhere else.
                              Last edited by BLADE; 02-10-2012, 04:02 AM.

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