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  • rune71

    #1

    MP5000

    Anyone who have a solution fixing a problem with faint copies on MP5000?
  • rthonpm
    Field Supervisor

    2,500+ Posts
    • Aug 2007
    • 2859

    #2
    Re: MP5000

    Clean the optics and laser slit glass. If internal prints are also faint, check the developer and if the machine has the old style toner.

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    • Counsel
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Aug 2011
      • 529

      #3
      Re: MP5000

      Second on the slit glass and optics

      I also have noticed a few times even when the prints are still ok, but copies are washed out that doing a PM on the pcu with new dev will fix it. I had one i was stumped why the prints looked great but copies looked like crap and replacing the dev fixed it. check your pm count if your close or over I would just pm it. If it was recently PM with dev and copies look good then I would probably follow the advice on the optics.

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      • Gift
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Mar 2011
        • 2459

        #4
        Re: MP5000

        The mag roller still get's coated with melted toner on these machines and the dev/toner ratio is usually quite weak from the start - no way to get proper blacks even if you add toner via SP and re-initialize the TD/ID sensors, somehow the process control restores it's weak solid. On the other hand it'S not really recommendable forcing too much toner since the DV unit would spill more toner as usual^^

        If the PM counter is >120k your drum/opc might also start weaken the density. Dev target is 320k but if the customer is more of the quality demaning kind I'd replace it if I need to pm the PCU (120-160k).

        I'm not really happy with these machines but it's just another bad chapter of a long history starting with the aficio 450 (toner crapper) then aficio 1045 (quite OK with no serious toner issues) then A2045 (another crapper) then A3035 (quite OK, sort of a "A2045 including all modifications" + better controller) then MP4500 (new toner - new issues, average machine) then MP5000 (no need to comment)

        The core engine hasn't changed a lot since the A450 - same goes for the ongoing quality issues shared by most of the generations. Ricoh's printer engineers did a better decision sticking with the Type18 Dev/Aficio1045 Toner for the SPxxxx printer series up to SP8100. I actually had no serious issies with these printers while the ongoing re-invention of the toner for the copiers is always driving me insane. I also hate the toner recycling philosophy and I don't know how that should help the economy if I need to replace the dev way before the PM yield because there's too much paper dust inside. Especially picky customers does generate a lot of calls, complaining about some spots.

        I'D like to see a B/W engine that is based of the MPC series - just with one PCU but also with a transfer belt to avoid direct opc<>paper contact and a good old waste toner bottle of course.

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        • Jomama46
          Field Supervisor

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 2900

          #5
          Re: MP5000

          I'D like to see a B/W engine that is based of the MPC series - just with one PCU but also with a transfer belt to avoid direct opc<>paper contact and a good old waste toner bottle of course.
          Me too, but I dont see it happening. They seem to be stuck in a grove on this design.
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          • Gift
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2011
            • 2459

            #6
            Re: MP5000

            Well - they've improved the fuser a lot, even if it's a bit of an ungrateful job to maintain it. At least the oil-web seems to improve the lifetime of the fuser rollers a lot so there's usually no need to replace them until the press roller is worn out. I have machines with >500k counter out there that still runs with the first hot/press roller. Once I had no oil-web in my car so I tried to rewind the old one - some time later a workmate had to PM the machine and he told me that even this worked fine. All in all Ricoh did a good job with the new fuser design so they probably make it worse for the "whatever-is-coming-up-next-generation"

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            • Polarbear
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2012
              • 1070

              #7
              Re: MP5000

              I second the issue of the brown coating on the mag roller - but that usually causes scatter right?

              Is the drum original? We found the using Katun drums in these causes the copies to run light - changing dev made little improvement. We went back to the Ricoh drum and all was well.

              Lesson learnt - stay away from "compatible" on this machine! The same happened on the MP4000 series.
              Press the GREEN button!!

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              • Oze
                Ricoh Fanboy

                1,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2008
                • 1663

                #8
                Re: MP5000

                1300CALLATECH

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