AF3030 drum unit rebuild

[copyaction]

Normally I just replace these with a type 1027 PCU but I had one with only 60,000 copies so I figured I would try to rebuild.
Replaced drum, cleaning blade and developer but when i installed it the copies looked overtoned with gray background and about a 1/2 wide gray band on the lead edge of the back of the copies.
Did I screw something up on it or are these just no good for rebuilds? (or both)

[sandmanmac]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

I'd say you screwed up (to use your term).
First. Did you use Oem Drum and blade or use a crappy Densi rebuild kit (for example)? I have had nothing but trouble with compatible kits.
I rebuild quite a few, and also use the type 1027 unit frequently. I generally only like to rebuild them once, and pay close attention to the dev gears, and often replace them at same time.
As long as you take your time, and do them properly, I have very few problems with the rebuilds

[Llama God]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

Also, I think that you need to run a dev initialisation on this unit. Right off the top of my head, it's SP2801.

[copyaction]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

Also, I think that you need to run a dev initialisation on this unit. Right off the top of my head, it's SP2801.

Yes I ran the dev initialization, I used a generic drum and blade (same type I have used in the past) and OEM developer.

[sandmanmac]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

I used a generic drum and blade (same type I have used in the past) and OEM developer.

Well, that's up to you then.
I also have had some drums/blades run ok for the cycle, but most fail immediately or after a couple thousand pages,
There seems to be no real quality control in the aftermarket, it's all about price. so I just cut my losses and always use OEM -at least when related to image formation. It just eliminates so many variables, and actually saves a ton of time and money in the end imo.

[Oze]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

I do both as well....rebuild AND 1027 units.
The only issue that I've ever struck with rebuilding is that sometimes the plastic inside the pcu is perished and after the rebuild you may have issues.
IMHO why even bother with the rebuild when you can just toss the 1027 in...sure the original drum had only done 60,000 but the time you save by using the 1027 unit could be another one or two calls for the dealer.....so you are STILL saving the boss money by using the complete unit as opposed to rebuilding.

[Tonerbomb]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

I do both as well....rebuild AND 1027 units.
The only issue that I've ever struck with rebuilding is that sometimes the plastic inside the pcu is perished and after the rebuild you may have issues.
IMHO why even bother with the rebuild when you can just toss the 1027 in...sure the original drum had only done 60,000 but the time you save by using the 1027 unit could be another one or two calls for the dealer.....so you are STILL saving the boss money by using the complete unit as opposed to rebuilding.

By the book the big differance is the CPC.. By the book from Ricoh, reality is the 1027 is quick n easy n usually works, on the other hand the bean counter says whats up with the actual cost........

[nmfaxman]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

When you are the boss and the only tech, you have to take your time to do it right the first time and then take your chances.
Working for the dealer, it was easier to just throw units in because it wasn't my money.
Now it is and I can tell you that my time is cheap and parts cost money.
New PCU $200.00. My Parts $60.00 including DV & labor is free. Do the math.
If a generic drum and blade work on the majority of my B/W machines, I am damn well going to save the money if I can.
Saving $140.00 & spending 1 hr in the shop when I can take my time to do it right and put it on the shelf for when I need it.
I rebuild every other PCU per machine, then strip the good parts for car stock and rebuilds.
I only use OEM toner and DV especially color so it eliminates supply CQ problems.

How many techs nowadays still know how to string their own corona wires from a spool?

A tip of the hat to all that have posted the money saving ways.

[copyaction]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

I am in the same position as you nmfaxman which is why I try to rebuild the low milage drum units on these and just replace with a 1027 if not.

Anyway back to the original question, is there a drum ground or bias connection that gets messed up that could be causing the gray overtoned condition?

[Oze]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

As I stated...if you work for a dealer = 1027
work for yourself=rebuild.
Math done
And when I was a Canon tech I did indeed restring my coro units from a spool and even twisted my own loops...go figure lol

[rthonpm]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

New PCU $200.00. My Parts $60.00 including DV & labor is free. Do the math.
If a generic drum and blade work on the majority of my B/W machines, I am damn well going to save the money if I can.

You must be having much better luck with generics than I ever had. My customers may have to end up paying a little more for the PCU, but the overall reliability can't be matched.

[Gift]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

New PCU $200.00. My Parts $60.00 including DV & labor is free. Do the math.

I'm not familiar with the US pricing for these units but $200 seems a bit too pricey to me - that's how much the end user might pay incl. sales tax (e.g. @Amazon). Here in europe (most of it at least) the price difference between "rebuild-it-yourself" and a new T1027 PCU is way less, that's why it's hard to consider as a serious option.

[copyaction]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

I'm not familiar with the US pricing for these units but $200 seems a bit too pricey to me - that's how much the end user might pay incl. sales tax (e.g. @Amazon). Here in the Euro-zone the price difference between "rebuild-it-yourself" and a new T1027 PCU is way less, that's why it's hard to consider as a serious option.

Best price I've ever found is $190 plus shipping, please message me if I am paying way too much.

[Gift]

Re: AF3030 drum unit rebuild

Like I said - I don't know the US market but if I find this unit on amazon.com for 205$ I'd say that you're paying too much as a dealer.