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  • sostek
    Technician
    Site Contributor
    50+ Posts
    • May 2010
    • 80

    full bleed printing

    Just a question concerning useage. I'm starting to get alot of customers who ask about full-bleed. Anyone notice machines running any dirtier printing alot of full-bleed?
  • rthonpm
    Field Supervisor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Aug 2007
    • 2831

    #2
    Re: full bleed printing

    All the time: Ricoh's colour equipment is made for business colour as opposed to production colour. The fusers just don't hold up very well to full bleed runs as they are made to expect a fairly low B/W to colour ratio.

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    • ricohpp

      #3
      Re: full bleed printing

      As at today, all laser technology products (regardless of brands), be it office or production cannot do full bleed printing. The most is to cheat the machine by registering the paper as bigger size but we will risk having jam in the fuser area. In digital printing, we always print our documents onto larger size paper and cut it into desired size to achieve the full bleed finished size.

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      • rthonpm
        Field Supervisor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Aug 2007
        • 2831

        #4
        Re: full bleed printing

        I agree with ricohpp, most full bleed stock I've seen is run on either 11x17 or 12x18 stock and cut down. Full bleed printing on the same size medium you are looking at using will never be successful.

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        • Gift
          Service Manager
          1,000+ Posts
          • Mar 2011
          • 2381

          #5
          Re: full bleed printing

          Full bleed reduces the lifetime of the pm parts and it's not possible at all without a certain leading edge erase (ugly fuser jams on most machines).

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          • KenB
            Geek Extraordinaire
            2,500+ Posts
            • Dec 2007
            • 3946

            #6
            Re: full bleed printing

            I agree - the only reliable way to get full bleed is to print on a larger size then cut it down.

            Anyone in the production world knows this.
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            • Tonerbomb
              AutoMajical Resolutionist
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              2,500+ Posts
              • Feb 2005
              • 2589

              #7
              Re: full bleed printing

              Originally posted by KenB
              I agree - the only reliable way to get full bleed is to print on a larger size then cut it down.

              Anyone in the production world knows this.
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              • teebee1234
                Service Manager
                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2008
                • 1670

                #8
                Re: full bleed printing

                Originally posted by Tonerbomb
                X2!!!
                Agreed, also on some models you will find a full bleed check box in the driver settings but I never mention or promote it. The newer production color models are probably more reliable as they can automatically adjust the paper position F>R as it is processed, keeping the toner overage to a minimum.

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