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  • Blazer1087
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    what does the music procedure do ?

    Hi everyone. On an MPC3000, what does the full and normal music adjust and when would it be needed? I have the service disc but I cant see much of an explaination on this. Thanks for any information.
  • rthonpm
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    #2
    Re: what does the music procedure do ?

    MUSIC is Mirror Unit Skew and Interval Correction.There's a pretty good description of the process in the LD232c (AF 2232c) service manual's detailed descriptions chapter.

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    • Blazer1087
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      #3
      Re: what does the music procedure do ?

      Thank you, I'll check it out.

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      • Jomama46
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        #4
        Re: what does the music procedure do ?

        MUSIC is an acronym for Mirror Unit for Skew and Interval Correction. It is the CPU that handles the color registration.
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        • Jomama46
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          #5
          Re: what does the music procedure do ?

          Originally posted by Jomama46
          MUSIC is an acronym for Mirror Unit for Skew and Interval Correction. It is the CPU that handles the color registration.
          oops too slow!
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          • Blazer1087
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            #6
            Re: what does the music procedure do ?

            When would this precedure need to be done?

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            • Zeldaman
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              #7
              Re: what does the music procedure do ?

              Hi there!
              Never had to this on the MPC-series. Look that the id-sensor is clean, change transferband & cl-unit in time, then the machines running like hell.
              Only on Aficio 3228-3245C we made a MUSIC-procedure after changing the modified bands without marking.
              Greetings...

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              • Jomama46
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                Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                Originally posted by Blazer1087
                When would this precedure need to be done?
                When the different color images dont align or register properly.
                On the UT screen you will see, "Color Registration" and in SM you can find the same.
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                • Llama God
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                  • tcs04
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                    #10
                    Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                    Originally posted by Llama God
                    .... ("Music was my first love"!.... ???) dedication!!

                    "Mirror unit for skew and interval correction was my first love" wouldn't really scan, would it?

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                    • Blazer1087
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                      Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                      I read the 2232c manuel that rthonpm recommended and it helped. The mirror that is getting adjusted is the 3rd mirror in the the LD unit? I also watched the John Miles video that was recommended but not much help there : ) The reason I'm trying to under stand this is a year ago I was trying to refurbish a used mpc3000 with a color registration problem but gave up on it and got rid of the machine. We now have another one in our shop with the same problem. I'm trying to understand how to correct it and why it happens. I got a lot of help from here last time it happened but never could get it. Its hard to troubleshoot something without knowing exactly how it works and the manuels arn"t very good at explaining some functions. If a mirror in the LD unit was not correcting properly would that cause registration to be off and the music precdure to fail?

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                      • Llama God
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                        #12
                        Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                        Try this then:



                        Failing that, the force line position adjust over and over again.

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                        • Jomama46
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                          Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                          Reg will also be off if the density of the developer is too weak or if the ID sensors cannot register and that may be caused by the upper left roller in the ITB unit as the sensors read off of that. Or the ITB may be scratched.
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                          • Blazer1087
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                            #14
                            Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                            Originally posted by Llama God
                            Try this then:

                            Spider woman - Isabelle Patissier - YouTube

                            Failing that, the force line position adjust over and over again.
                            allright...much better!

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                            • Llama God
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                              #15
                              Re: what does the music procedure do ?

                              Seriously though, the forc line position adjustment done over and over should drag it back into line. If not, it'll get it close enough for the user tools' auto reg to succeed.

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