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  • TEKK09
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    Aficio 1045 jams at C

    The machine will jam almost every copy, but after the paper is removed, machine starts printing automatically, and this copy will never jam. When it jams, the leading edge is about an inch away from being seen out the exit, and trailing edge is an inch past the registration rollers. It acts like the paper dial is on the wrong setting, but's not. And paper setting with user tools is correct. And I checked the gate just past the fuser and it moves freely. (I had this unit out in the past and fixed the sticky pad problem.) I swapped the dial switch ass'y with the other cassette, but no difference. Also tried changing LTR to LTR-R. I checked sensor trip lead of lower and upper relay sensors, at the PCB and looks ok, it doesn't hang on low anyway. Please please help!
    Last edited by TEKK09; 01-08-2013, 02:19 PM.
  • sandmanmac
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    Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

    Does this happen from all feed stations including bypass? What is the actual jam code that's logged?

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    • TEKK09
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      Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

      Originally posted by sandmanmac
      Does this happen from all feed stations including bypass? What is the actual jam code that's logged?
      Happens from both cassettes, will check the bypass. And how do I get the code? I thought 'C' was the only code the machine gave. Shows how much I know.

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      • sandmanmac
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        Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

        Originally posted by TEKK09
        Happens from both cassettes, will check the bypass. And how do I get the code? I thought 'C' was the only code the machine gave. Shows how much I know.
        Letter codes are to assist end users in jam removal. # codes are in the jam history in SP mode for troubleshooting
        Last edited by sandmanmac; 01-08-2013, 09:25 PM.

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        • TEKK09
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          Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

          Logging data...(SP-7507 on logging printout)...this must be what you're asking for. The code is 014. Also found out it does jam from the bypass as well. So it jams from every port/tray. And when rolling the paper out, the registration is perfect every time. The original service call was for jamming in the DF. I cleaned the DF and then ran 30 or 40 originals through to check it (and had no jamming in the machine!). I then decided to clean inside. I took out the drum unit, the dv unit, and the transfer ass'y. Took out the drum and vacuumed the auger area & cleaned the charge roller. I vacuumed the toner off of the dev unit. And I vacuumed out all the used toner in the transfer box. I've done all these at least 50 times. Nothing out of the ordinary happened. But when I put it back together, I had the jamming problem. Before cleaning inside, I did turn the machine off with the physical switch though. I tried turning it off on the op panel first, but it would beep twice quickly, and would not do anything else. I had to just go ahead and shut it down with the pink switch. Have no clue why it beeped. Shuts down exactly the same place when it jams, but doesn't jam every copy. Weird. Any thoughts?

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          • sandmanmac
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            Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

            Here's most of what I found. I'm leaning toward the dust in the fuser cover, or at least an exit switch issue. Good luck

            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - adjust SP5-958 feed clutch start timing to 50 or 55 - default is 42.5
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - Check for paper dust in fuser cover indent (fusing exit sensor lines up with indent)
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - Ensure good connection from grounding tab on Fusing exit sensor bracket and frame when door shut.
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - Re-form/replace A2 plate above relay sensor
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - replace fusing exit sensor - located on paper guide assembly on right door- confirm correct sensor was replaced - AW010090
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - replace fusing exit sensor with new style - AW 01 00 61
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - Replace harness to fusing exit sesor
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - replace IOB, sensor bracket and ID sensor harness as a set
            Jam Code 014 [SP7-504-14] - replace power supply unit

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            • nodle
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              Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

              I use to have an account with over 100 of these copiers. It was comon to replace the fuser exit sensor to correct for jam code 14.

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              • TEKK09
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                Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

                Thanks for the great responses. sandmanmac where did you get that info? I can't even find an explanation of the 014 code in the manual. Found info on ADF jams but not jams in copier. Maybe I'm just blind, would really like to know WHERE they are.
                nodle is the senson I've pointed at the one you're talking about? I replaced that sensor about a year ago, and I recall the symptom being different than what I have now. Back then it would shut down and 2~3 inches of the paper would be out the exit. The symptom now is an inch before it gets to the exit. Maybe both are possible with that sensor? The manual has it as AW010049, but sandmanmac's info says to use the new number AW 01 00 61. What do you think? Thanks guys. exit sensor.JPG

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                • sandmanmac
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                  Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

                  Originally posted by TEKK09
                  Thanks for the great responses. sandmanmac where did you get that info? I can't even find an explanation of the 014 code in the manual. Found info on ADF jams but not jams in copier. Maybe I'm just blind, would really like to know WHERE they are.
                  nodle is the senson I've pointed at the one you're talking about? I replaced that sensor about a year ago, and I recall the symptom being different than what I have now. Back then it would shut down and 2~3 inches of the paper would be out the exit. The symptom now is an inch before it gets to the exit. Maybe both are possible with that sensor? The manual has it as AW010049, but sandmanmac's info says to use the new number AW 01 00 61. What do you think? Thanks guys. [ATTACH=CONFIG]18929[/ATTACH]

                  The manual doesn't show the "new" part number precisely because it is a 'newer' number since it was published -often because of issues with the original part, but due to the age of the machine. I doubt you can actually get it anywhere now -unless it's the same p/n for some of the newer generation boxes too -best to just try and find one one a parts machine. But cleaning the sensor and surrounding areas of paper dust as described might do the trick anyway.
                  The descriptions of the jam codes was obtained from the 'Goose Guide' which is, imo, the most helpful and informative single document you can have when working on Ricohs.
                  It's been posted on here several times by a few very generous techs, as updates become available. The most recent was actually just a few days ago. If you look down the page only a few posts, you'll see the thread "Ricoh goose's guide 2012". Go to near the end of it, because the newest version has been added to this older post

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                  • MisterP

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                    Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

                    Hi, I have seen this fault before. There is a paper detect sensor on the right hand transport door that sits below the black guide plate above the transfer unit on the door. The metal bracket which is screwed to the black exit entrance guide, which holds the sensor gets bent and so the sensor will not be sitting at quite the correct angle to detect the paper correctly, hence a 'phantom' jam occurs. Try straightening the bracket so that the sensor detects at right angles to the door when shut. Part number of the bracket is B077 4323 if it helps to locate it in the parts manual. Regards, Richard

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                    • Counsel
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                      Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

                      Originally posted by nodle
                      I use to have an account with over 100 of these copiers. It was comon to replace the fuser exit sensor to correct for jam code 14.
                      I have run into this a few times as well. I believe it is the aw010061 sensor which if I remember right is actually on the 2cd page for transfer unit section of the parts manual because its located on the door just above the transfer deck. It is listed as Fuser exit sensor in the manual, of the few that is actually labled instead of just saying photoreflective sensor.

                      I think its a grey and red colored plastic vs the normal black color sensors.

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                      • nodle
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                        Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

                        There is another sensor that sits on top of the paper separation unit (above the fuser, under the scanner unit) just before the exit. The Part # is AW01 0049. I dont think that one causes a jam code 14 though.
                        That sensor would cause it to only feed part way ont of the exit. I think the heat from the fuser unit after so many years causes it to go bad. have seen that one go bad very often on these older machines.
                        Thank God I do not have anymore of these old ones in the field.

                        Yes the one you have marked is the one I'm speaking of..... but the fuser exit sensor is on the right hand door (in the parts manual section 18. Transfer section 2 item # 36. Part # AW01 0061. Two different sensors.

                        Sorry if I'm making this a little confusing. It has been about 2 years since I have work on one of this model. Plus I have been I in calss the last 2 days on the new M052 series machines. so my brain is all mixed up....lol

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                        • TEKK09
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                          10-4 on the all mixed up. But thanks to all these great tips, I think the problem has beer resolved. It was dust on the fuser section, where the 'fuser exit senson' looks. I didn't even know there was a sensor on that unit. Kept scratchin my head about wth they talking about. And the ground strap was loose. Ran over 200 copies, not 1 jam! I'm thinking a second unit with the same 014 codes will be the same thing. A huge load off my mind...can't thank you all enough.

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                          • sandmanmac
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                            Re: Aficio 1045 jams at C

                            Originally posted by TEKK09
                            I think the problem has beer resolved.
                            Good to hear...'beer' resolves a lot of my problems too..haha

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                            • TEKK09
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                              I figured that would get a laugh...gonna get a few more things resolved in a little bit here. Cheers.

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