ricoh color drums not cleaning .

[fshead]

1st off let me say i am not a big fan of the ricoh 3228C
I BOUGHT about 12 of them over the past few years ,lease returns low counts and did basic
maintenance,drum repl and trans unit cleaning and cl blade.
some worked out ok and others drove me nuts..
i have replaced all 4 drum units only to have to return to reclean all 4 drums again..copied were good again
swaped out the yellow n black and 2 weeks later its not cleaning again..dirty trans roller and drum..typical drum blade bot cleaning
in some parts..OEM toner used only..
vacuumed out the inside waste toner tubes and pulled the exhaust filters.
the black is ok now but single color shows the drum blade streaks from all 3 drums..
dev units look ok and not overtoned,the vcnt was a little low 11. to 12.
wiped out complete cavity wth cloth rag wth alcohol..
AM i missing something?
the trans unit is old but still stays clean,was dismantled,cleaned and lub bar/cl blade all changed..
THNX IN ADVANCE..
BTW how are the later model colors in the 25 to 30cpm..MPC 2550,C2800?

[redneckstylin]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

if im correct the trans unit had the id sensors built in replace it...

[Eric1968]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

The ID-sensors aren't part of the Transfer Unit. They're located just before the Fusing Unit. If you remove the Fusing Unit you'll see them. Had a lot of them the past years. Common problem of these machines when they get older is bad Development Clutches. When they're bad toner will spill on the Transfer Belt and will cause dirty copies.

[fshead]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

hi.
i cleaned the id sensors below the fuser near the black pc..
do you pull the id sensors out or just brush and wipe them?
im not seeing overtoning or excessive toner dropping drom the developer unit.
as per the trans belt unit, it looks fairly clean, i have seen dumping from dev units before...
are there no discharge lamps for the cleaning process of the drum units?
the manual says :::Quenching for OPC drum:
Quenching is done by illuminating the whole area of the drum with the laser at
the end of every job.
i ve heard of dev clutches sticking but have yet to venture to pull them out..
is this a nite mare to get to?

If i had to replace these older colors out wth later models,low vol..
what would be your opinion ...
i dont want headaches,,basic service and cleaning>>no problem..
i did place a few kyoceras and so far no issuess,,
but i am more a ricoh b/w guy but need to expand to color units when offered

thnx

[nmfaxman]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

I have discovered that people using cheap ass paper causes paper dust to build up on the cleaning blades.
When they spent $5.00 more for a case, the drums lasted longer.

[Eric1968]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

hi.
i cleaned the id sensors below the fuser near the black pc..
do you pull the id sensors out or just brush and wipe them?
im not seeing overtoning or excessive toner dropping drom the developer unit.
as per the trans belt unit, it looks fairly clean, i have seen dumping from dev units before...
are there no discharge lamps for the cleaning process of the drum units?
the manual says :::Quenching for OPC drum:
Quenching is done by illuminating the whole area of the drum with the laser at
the end of every job.
i ve heard of dev clutches sticking but have yet to venture to pull them out..
is this a nite mare to get to?

If i had to replace these older colors out wth later models,low vol..
what would be your opinion ...
i dont want headaches,,basic service and cleaning>>no problem..
i did place a few kyoceras and so far no issuess,,
but i am more a ricoh b/w guy but need to expand to color units when offered

thnx

Replacing clutches is not difficult. When you do it for the first time it looks complicated, but when you do it often it's not such a big deal.

[fshead]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

hi are these cleanable like the earlier b/w copiers or do you need to change them out?
is this something you can ck by looking at the dev units wth door sw cheated?
not sure if it s viewable..
last time i pulled rear cover off it looked like a lot of stuff to remove to get to the drive section..
thnx

[fshead]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

I have discovered that people using cheap ass paper causes paper dust to build up on the cleaning blades.
When they spent $5.00 more for a case, the drums lasted longer.

they will do what they want..my biggest issues are law firm accounts and staple/paper clips on the copier n sorter...
if i got 10 cent each i cld retire

[Eric1968]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

hi are these cleanable like the earlier b/w copiers or do you need to change them out?
is this something you can ck by looking at the dev units wth door sw cheated?
not sure if it s viewable..
last time i pulled rear cover off it looked like a lot of stuff to remove to get to the drive section..
thnx

You can clean them, but if they're bad you'll have to replace them later.

You can swing the whole Controller Box to the left (10 screws or so), then you see the drive unit.

[Klydon]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

Either the 2550 or 2800 is a big leap forward compared to these old dogs. The 2550 is a light duty copier that can't handle the volume these machines did, but a 2800 will run circles around it in terms of reliability, quality and ease of maintenance.

[fshead]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

You can clean them, but if they're bad you'll have to replace them later.

You can swing the whole Controller Box to the left (10 screws or so), then you see the drive unit.

im just looking to buy time to swap out these dogs with some later model machines..
i usually blow out the clutches and then spray alcohol in and shoot air in after..
is it odd that the black drum/dev units dont seen to have issues?
i figured all clutches wld be affected together..

[tufbnme]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

I've sold and serviced plenty of the 32 series and only had drum issues when I pushed them past the expected life (80k), same with the dv. Change them at the intervals and you should have no issues.

[fshead]

Re: ricoh color drums not cleaning .

I've sold and serviced plenty of the 32 series and only had drum issues when I pushed them past the expected life (80k), same with the dv. Change them at the intervals and you should have no issues.

i thought so too..
i think some machines dont work as well in climates wth big temp changes..
after spending 4 hours trying to get my yellow to line up wth that tedious bulletin
for line color reg i decided there has got to be better machines to place...
i spent less time adjusting the old 4106 and 6513s